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First Cause Argument
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First Cause Argument
The First Cause Argument
If there is no first cause, then the universe is like a great chain with many links; each link is held up by the link above it, but the whole chain is held up by nothing.
The most famous of all arguments for the existence of God are the "five ways" of Saint Thomas Aquinas. One of the five ways, the fifth, is the argument from design, which we looked at in the last essay. The other four are versions of the first-cause argument, which we explore here.
The argument is basically very simple, natural, intuitive, and commonsensical. We have to become complex and clever in order to doubt or dispute it. It is based on an instinct of mind that we all share: the instinct that says everything needs an explanation. Nothing just is without a reason why it is. Everything that is has some adequate or sufficient reason why it is.
Philosophers call this the Principle of Sufficient Reason. We use it every day, in common sense and in science as well as in philosophy and theology. If we saw a rabbit suddenly appear on an empty table, we would not blandly say, "Hi, rabbit. You came from nowhere, didn't you?" No, we would look for a cause, assuming there has to be one. Did the rabbit fall from the ceiling? Did a magician put it there when we weren't looking? If there seems to be no physical cause, we look for a psychological cause: perhaps someone hypnotized us. As a last resort, we look for a supernatural cause, a miracle. But there must be some cause. We never deny the Principle of Sufficient Reason itself. No one believes the Pop Theory: that things just pop into existence for no reason at all. Perhaps we will never find the cause, but there must be a cause for everything that comes into existence.

If there is no first cause, then the universe is like a great chain with many links; each link is held up by the link above it, but the whole chain is held up by nothing.

Now the whole universe is a vast, interlocking chain of things that come into existence. Each of these things must therefore have a cause. My parents caused me, my grandparents caused them, et cetera. But it is not that simple. I would not be here without billions of causes, from the Big Bang through the cooling of the galaxies and the evolution of the protein molecule to the marriages of my ancestors. The universe is a vast and complex chain of causes. But does the universe as a whole have a cause? Is there a first cause, an uncaused cause, a transcendent cause of the whole chain of causes? If not, then there is an infinite regress of causes, with no first link in the great cosmic chain. If so, then there is an eternal, necessary, independent, self-explanatory being with nothing above it, before it, or supporting it. It would have to explain itself as well as everything else, for if it needed something else as its explanation, its reason, its cause, then it would not be the first and uncaused cause. Such a being would have to be God, of course. If we can prove there is such a first cause, we will have proved there is a God.
Why must there be a first cause? Because if there isn't, then the whole universe is unexplained, and we have violated our Principle of Sufficient Reason for everything. If there is no first cause, each particular thing in the universe is explained in the short run, or proximately, by some other thing, but nothing is explained in the long run, or ultimately, and the universe as a whole is not explained. Everyone and everything says in turn, "Don't look to me for the final explanation. I'm just an instrument. Something else caused me." If that's all there is, then we have an endless passing of the buck. God is the one who says, "The buck stops here."
If there is no first cause, then the universe is like a great chain with many links; each link is held up by the link above it, but the whole chain is held up by nothing. If there is no first cause, then the universe is like a railroad train moving without an engine. Each car's motion is explained proximately by the motion of the car in front of it: the caboose moves because the boxcar pulls it, the boxcar moves because the cattle car pulls it, et cetera. But there is no engine to pull the first car and the whole train. That would be impossible, of course. But that is what the universe is like if there is no first cause: impossible.
Here is one more analogy. Suppose I tell you there is a book that explains everything you want explained. You want that book very much. You ask me whether I have it. I say no, I have to get it from my wife. Does she have it? No, she has to get it from a neighbor. Does he have it? No, he has to get it from his teacher, who has to get it. . . et cetera, etcetera, ad infinitum. No one actually has the book. In that case, you will never get it. However long or short the chain of book borrowers may be, you will get the book only if someone actually has it and does not have to borrow it. Well, existence is like that book. Existence is handed down the chain of causes, from cause to effect. If there is no first cause, no being who is eternal and self-sufficient, no being who has existence by his own nature and does not have to borrow it from someone else, then the gift of existence can never be passed down the chain to others, and no one will ever get it. But we did get it. We exist. We got the gift of existence from our causes, down the chain, and so did every actual being in the universe, from atoms to archangels. Therefore there must be a first cause of existence, a God.

If there is no independent being, then the whole chain of dependent beings is dependent on nothing and could not exist.

In more abstract philosophical language, the proof goes this way. Every being that exists either exists by itself, by its own essence or nature, or it does not exist by itself. If it exists by its own essence, then it exists necessarily and eternally, and explains itself. It cannot not exist, as a triangle cannot not have three sides. If, on the other hand, a being exists but not by its own essence, then it needs a cause, a reason outside itself for its existence. Because it does not explain itself, something else must explain it. Beings whose essence does not contain the reason for their existence, beings that need causes, are called contingent, or dependent, beings. A being whose essence is to exist is called a necessary being. The universe contains only contingent beings. God would be the only necessary being—if God existed. Does he? Does a necessary being exist? Here is the proof that it does. Dependent beings cannot cause themselves. They are dependent on their causes. If there is no independent being, then the whole chain of dependent beings is dependent on nothing and could not exist. But they do exist. Therefore there is an independent being.
Saint Thomas has four versions of this basic argument.
First, he argues that the chain of movers must have a first mover because nothing can move itself. (Moving here refers to any kind of change, not just change of place.) If the whole chain of moving things had no first mover, it could not now be moving, as it is. If there were an infinite regress of movers with no first mover, no motion could ever begin, and if it never began, it could not go on and exist now. But it does go on, it does exist now. Therefore it began, and therefore there is a first mover.
Second, he expands the proof from proving a cause of motion to proving a cause of existence, or efficient cause. He argues that if there were no first efficient cause, or cause of the universe's coming into being, then there could be no second causes because second causes (i.e., caused causes) are dependent on (i.e., caused by) a first cause (i.e., an uncaused cause). But there are second causes all around us. Therefore there must be a first cause.
Third, he argues that if there were no eternal, necessary, and immortal being, if everything had a possibility of not being, of ceasing to be, then eventually this possibility of ceasing to be would be realized for everything. In other words, if everything could die, then, given infinite time, everything would eventually die. But in that case nothing could start up again. We would have universal death, for a being that has ceased to exist cannot cause itself or anything else to begin to exist again. And if there is no God, then there must have been infinite time, the universe must have been here always, with no beginning, no first cause. But this universal death has not happened; things do exist! Therefore there must be a necessary being that cannot not be, cannot possibly cease to be. That is a description of God.
Fourth, there must also be a first cause of perfection or goodness or value. We rank things as more or less perfect or good or valuable. Unless this ranking is false and meaningless, unless souls don't really have any more perfection than slugs, there must be a real standard of perfection to make such a hierarchy possible, for a thing is ranked higher on the hierarchy of perfection only insofar as it is closer to the standard, the ideal, the most perfect. Unless there is a most-perfect being to be that real standard of perfection, all our value judgments are meaningless and impossible. Such a most-perfect being, or real ideal standard of perfection, is another description of God
http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/first-cause.htm
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#2
RE: First Cause Argument
TLDR

I'll just wait for someone to find a nugget worth a few yucks and then chime in. Carry on.
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#3
RE: First Cause Argument
Seems like most theistic arguments: word salad.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: First Cause Argument
"I don't know" is a good answer when we don't have enough evidence to go on. To try and shoehorn god into this gap is rather deceitful.

The concept of god is one of a thinking complex creature with powerful abilities. the only way to get a creature that could resemble this is with evolution which requires both time and space.
So positing god as the creator of both of these things is just silly.

The argument that is usually put forward to counter this is that god is a being that exists "outside of time" which again is a useless argument as one of the basic things needed to exist is duration.

The OPs argument is also just an argument for a god that creates the universe and buggers off never to be seen again but the biblical god is a micro managing arsehole.



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RE: First Cause Argument
Ah, plagiarism. Way to go, Spidey.

This is a discussion forum, not a mirror site. You might acquaint yourself with the forum rules.
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RE: First Cause Argument
(April 21, 2014 at 11:48 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Ah, plagiarism. Way to go, Spidey.

This is a discussion forum, not a mirror site. You might acquaint yourself with the forum rules.

At least, there's a link at the end crediting the author (if he's not the author of that link's content himself)...

Anyway, TL;DR.... god of the gaps, argument from ignorance.
No ontological argument for the existence of a deity can escape at least one of these two fallacies. No need to read the whole thing.
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RE: First Cause Argument
(April 21, 2014 at 11:56 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(April 21, 2014 at 11:48 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Ah, plagiarism. Way to go, Spidey.

This is a discussion forum, not a mirror site. You might acquaint yourself with the forum rules.

At least, there's a link at the end crediting the author (if he's not the author of that link's content himself)...

Yep, there is - but our rules and guidelines don't allow wholesale copy-pasting of anyone's material, even your own, with or without permission.

Quoting a few sentences and providing a link is the recommended way. We don't want to become a dumping ground for every asshole's blog content.
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RE: First Cause Argument
Xtians are like cesspools - they never tire of the same old shit.
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RE: First Cause Argument
(April 21, 2014 at 11:10 am)whateverist Wrote: I'll just wait for someone to find a nugget worth a few yucks and then chime in. Carry on.
Looks like a wall of text based on the premise that god exists because he has to. I find this line of argument fascinating. The specific god that this guy worships has done such a poor job of making itself known that he falls back on "but something must be out there" as an argument. Much in the way that Christians make a big point about whether experts agree that "Jesus was real" when they are really just pointing out that the best they can do is kinda confirm that a guy named Jesus happened to live in those times and might have been a rabble-rouser.

Based on the choice (and the consequences) that the Abrahamic god is offering to humanity, you'd expect that he'd do a better job of making himself known than "he could be out there, in some form indistinguishable from all of those false gods!"
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#10
RE: First Cause Argument
Special pleading -- only Gawd doesn't need a cause.

Lol.
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