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Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
#71
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
If all the records and all the tooling of Saturn 5, Apollo and LEM were still existent and accessible, and a serious proposal were put forward by people more concerned with results than with publicity to build new saturn 5s, Apollos and LEM to beat the chinese back to the moon on a budget, I have no doubt it would immediately be found, somehow, that critical tooling is no longer serviceable, or important record were no longer readable, just so that some major aerospace firm can get more government funding updating and reinventing the wheel, with the connivance of NASA, who could not possibly miss the opportunity to argue for more R&D budget to build many nice to have features into their new toy, partly to make the toys more potentially useful for other future missions, partly to show NASA is keeping up to date and remain state of the art, by simply ignoring the original intention of the mandate to reuse what is available to get back to the moon the quickest.
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#72
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
Which is amusingly close to what actually went down eh? oooh ooooh, -now- we're getting into some fun conspiracies..hehehe.
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#73
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
A continuing problem with maintaining the shuttle fleet was as time passed, materials science advanced, and some of the substances used to build or operate the shuttle became unavailable. New and improved materials would have to be exhaustively tested for compatibility with the 70s technology and structure of the existing shuttles.

Attempting to build a 'new' Saturn V might be rather difficult for the same reason, any thing used in the 70s with chlorofluorocarbons to make pieces of the Saturn V, for example, is going to be a headache, and multiply that problem by maybe 1000 or 10,000.

And with the advances in, for example, carbon fibre, why would anybody want to build a big old clunky Saturn V when a lighter, and more capable vehicle could be built.

And of course, that vehicle, in 30 years is going to be a maintenance and repair hog too, there will be all kinds of new materials developed in the interim, and qualifying them for compatibility and the rigors of space flight is a challenge.

Did you know a cadmium plated screwdriver cannot be allowed to touch an SR71 ?? There are potentially a million 'gotchas' out there, and that's why rockets are expensive.
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#74
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
Well, as for evidence of the fact that NASA would not settle for reusing Apollo technology for narrow goals, just look at the J-2X engine.

J-2X is claimed to be a cost saving approach to upper stage restartable engine. It was suppose to be the iriginal Apollo era J-2 engine, slightly modified to take advantage of modern manufacturing techniques.

In fact it ended up a totally new clean slate engine with only a minimum of superficial similarities with its namesake. It only kept the J-2 name to maintain the illusion that NASA saved tax payer money by reusing Apollo era technology.
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#75
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
All this speculation about jumping into space again is fascinating, but I just wanted to interject just in case Prof was still listening (thought I doubt it).

(June 12, 2014 at 7:00 pm)professor Wrote: When you can pull off biggies like that- 911 and Sandy Hook are a cakewalk.

You, sir, represent some of the worst of humanity. As the daughter of someone who was in the Pentagon during 9/11, fuck you. And I'm sure the parents at Sandy Hook would like you to die in a fire as well.
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#76
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#77
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
Summerqueen, you can thank the military for the missile strike on the Pentagon.
There were NO aircraft parts found- no 10.000 pound engines, no aluminum all over, no bodies.
How come?
The sole security video that was released had the section between the missile just appearing and the explosion removed.
How come?
The damage hole in the Pentagon wall had NO damage where the wings and engine of a large jet would have caved it in.
How come?

Now let's wander over to Pennsylvania. There was a hole in the ground. No body parts. No aluminum all over, one engine found in the woods (size not revealed). How come?
The investigators looked around, shook their shoulders and left.

A witness to the Penn.flight declared she saw a SMALL jet head to the crash area before hearing the crash.

When 911 occurred, I wondered WHERE were the dogs sniffing for explosives?
Why did the steel immediately get shipped out to China?
This was way before I found the truth about the event.

Like all of you, I blamed the Islamics.
It is ironic that the one atrocity that they did not do was blamed on them.
But the PTB got the war they wanted.

I suspect the majority of people cannot tolerate the thought that their leaders are nefarious.
This also goes fully against the grain of the Liberal deep- seated view that all people are basically good. Unwilling to personally see evil within- this view is widened to be nearly all- inclusive.

No children were killed at Sandy Hook. It was all acting.
The PTB wants to overturn the second amendment so desperately that they concoct these dramas to turn public opinion against the single Amendment specifically designed to protect the public FROM totalitarianism by GOVT.
Once that is gone Tyranny is the plan.
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#78
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
Facepalm
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#79
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
Right, Al-Qaeda falsely claimed responsibility for 9/11 because they were in on a U.S. government plot that would result in their being attacked by the world's most powerful military.

Yep, makes perfect sense. Idiot.
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#80
RE: Moon Landing: Fake or Real?
'Professor', I officially hate you for making me resort to a phrase that I personally abhor:

Fuck off and die in a fire.
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