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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 13, 2014 at 9:19 pm
(August 13, 2014 at 8:09 pm)jughead Wrote: Just cause I tell you shit can fly are you going to believe it? "B-b-but... I've seen it!"
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 13, 2014 at 10:17 pm
(August 13, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Tonus Wrote: (August 13, 2014 at 8:09 pm)jughead Wrote: Just cause I tell you shit can fly are you going to believe it? "B-b-but... I've seen it!"
For the most extreme claims, belief comes first, .. then the visions!
Believe in your heart of hearts that shit can fly, then you will see it. Guaranteed.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 13, 2014 at 11:38 pm
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(August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That's not the anti-theist position, dolt. I would remain an anti-theist...even if there were a god.....and even more stringently so. I don't bow the knee to tyranny by sheer force of it's existence. Reach down and grab your nuts, bro.
The Oxford English Dictionary defines antitheist as "One opposed to belief in the existence of a god" {citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheism)
Whether you choose to "bow down" or not to a god is irrelivent to the discussion of it's existence.
Now reach down and grab your ovaries, sis
I do concede that there are other definitons of anti-theism, but the context is explicitly clear that this is the definition he/she is alluding to.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 13, 2014 at 11:40 pm
They can't prove their claim. Any attempt by either side to do so would end up in a fruitless pissing contest.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 14, 2014 at 1:03 am
(August 13, 2014 at 11:40 pm)Polaris Wrote: They can't prove their claim. Any attempt by either side to do so would end up in a fruitless pissing contest.
Never stopped your lot though.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 14, 2014 at 1:17 am
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2014 at 1:24 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 13, 2014 at 11:38 pm)answer-is-42 Wrote: I do concede that there are other definitons of anti-theism, but the context is explicitly clear that this is the definition he/she is alluding to. I don't think that people should believe in heavenly tyrants., it lends credence to earthly ones. I don't think that people should believe in cosmic pink fluffy bunnies that will give you cake either - howsabout folks stop wishing for cake and bake the godamned cake? I could go on, and on, and on. At no point will I ever be required to prove that there is no god to "prove" anti-theism. The context makes it perfectly clear, that he had no idea wtf an anti-theist was. Now he knows.
(anyone notice that oxford got sloppy on that one btw?)
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 14, 2014 at 1:27 am
(August 13, 2014 at 11:40 pm)Polaris Wrote: They can't prove their claim. Any attempt by either side to do so would end up in a fruitless pissing contest. It's trivially easy to prove that one is opposed to something....sigh.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 14, 2014 at 2:38 am
(August 11, 2014 at 12:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Sorry I couldn't resist making fun of the inane "Hey Atheists..." titled threads. Anyway...
For those of you that self-describe as anti-theists, you face the same burden of proof as believers. So, please share the compelling proof or evidence that you believe disproves the existence of a god or gods.
According to Russell's Teapot, the person who is making the claim (you and other theists) should be the one carrying the Burden of Proof, not the people doubting your claim (me and other Atheists and Anti-Theists).
So the real question should be:
"Where is your evidence that God/Gods exists?"
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm
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(August 14, 2014 at 1:03 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (August 13, 2014 at 11:40 pm)Polaris Wrote: They can't prove their claim. Any attempt by either side to do so would end up in a fruitless pissing contest.
Never stopped your lot though.
I actually talk about my faith?  Not any more than a normal atheist would bring up religion.
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RE: Hey Anti-Theists! Prove Your Claim
August 14, 2014 at 8:03 pm
I just don't get the mindset that produces a statement along the lines of "I am sure that my god exists and the burden of proof lies upon anyone who doubts me".
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