A Mystic Friend

[bearheart]

All humans are one with all there is, if they know it or not, its just that some people have had a deep inner experience of that oneness, they are no closer to that oneness than anyone else, but they have again experienced it. The mind cannot understand this, so it can never become a true science, and those who have experienced this can only point to that which is......and that's about it.

Of course we are made of the elements that make up this universe and nothing else, we are a complex (at least by earth standards) biological machinery that can process sensory input and act on it based of multiples levels of memory and rules.My hypothesis is that the feeling of oneness that some people experience or many have a glimpse through meditation and brain injuries are nothing but a facet of our brains, like I earlier said related to what we call imagination.Probably its the state that the brain reaches when we have control over our thoughts and how sensory inputs (and internal memory based inputs) are processed. An Idle brain at rest may experience such a feeling, may be thats how are neural wiring is.
We don't need special powers or meditation to experience the oneness I feel, have you ever experienced a feeling of oneness when working with a team towards the same goals. Everyone is so geared up like clockwork that our distrust and other feelings of self preservation fade.The rest of the world vanishes with only the goal in mind, and you are part of the bigger group/team entity.

[psychoslice]

All humans are one with all there is, if they know it or not, its just that some people have had a deep inner experience of that oneness, they are no closer to that oneness than anyone else, but they have again experienced it. The mind cannot understand this, so it can never become a true science, and those who have experienced this can only point to that which is......and that's about it.

Of course we are made of the elements that make up this universe and nothing else, we are a complex (at least by earth standards) biological machinery that can process sensory input and act on it based of multiples levels of memory and rules.My hypothesis is that the feeling of oneness that some people experience or many have a glimpse through meditation and brain injuries are nothing but a facet of our brains, like I earlier said related to what we call imagination.Probably its the state that the brain reaches when we have control over our thoughts and how sensory inputs (and internal memory based inputs) are processed. An Idle brain at rest may experience such a feeling, may be thats how are neural wiring is.
We don't need special powers or meditation to experience the oneness I feel, have you ever experienced a feeling of oneness when working with a team towards the same goals. Everyone is so geared up like clockwork that our distrust and other feelings of self preservation fade.The rest of the world vanishes with only the goal in mind, and you are part of the bigger group/team entity.

So be that, that how you experience it, I experience it differently, and I have my own language to try and explain what I have experienced, as you do also. I can never truly know what you experience, as you can never know what I experience, that is what life is. We all experience the so called world with our senses, and that is also the only thing we can ever know. The world as we know it and experience it is not the truth of what the world or cosmos truly is, there is a lot more going on than we could ever know, my world is different than yours, and everyone else's world is different than mine and yours. Its only by agreeing on what is out there that we all share the world, but we don't have to follow that conditioning, we can experience what truly is. When one truly experiences this truth, all questions are answered, not in a knowledgeable way, but in a inner recognition, that recognises itself, this what is known as Enlightenment.

[Neo-Scholastic]

I see no harm in allowing him to follow his conscience so long as it does not interfere with his ability to care for himself or hurt other people.

[bearheart]

So be that, that how you experience it, I experience it differently, and I have my own language to try and explain what I have experienced, as you do also. I can never truly know what you experience, as you can never know what I experience, that is what life is. We all experience the so called world with our senses, and that is also the only thing we can ever know. The world as we know it and experience it is not the truth of what the world or cosmos truly is, there is a lot more going on than we could ever know, my world is different than yours, and everyone else's world is different than mine and yours. Its only by agreeing on what is out there that we all share the world, but we don't have to follow that conditioning, we can experience what truly is. When one truly experiences this truth, all questions are answered, not in a knowledgeable way, but in a inner recognition, that recognises itself, this what is known as Enlightenment.

I agree that experiencing the world is quite subjective to the observer. Experience by itself is very qualitative. Just like there is no measure of how beautiful a rose is, there is no measure of which or whose experience is the true experience. To understand truth , and by truth I mean the structure of the universe, our place in the universe, and answers to questions like "do supernatural powers exist?", one must look at it in a quantitative manner. A quantitative perspective is a hypothesis backed by observational or mathematical evidence. Truth cannot be based on an experience, I think it needs to be worked upon harder in a quantitative way.
Regarding enlightenment, its a name given (a misnomer) to one of the myriad of states the human brain can be. What a person claiming to be enlightened experiences need not be true, if his experience is true then the same needs to be quantifiable.If a person claims to have access to the supernatural, I think it should be just cake walk to provide a quantitative answer to the mysteries of the cosmos.

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I see no harm in allowing him to follow his conscience so long as it does not interfere with his ability to care for himself or hurt other people.

I guess its fine, but its sad to see already helpless people get carried away into a world of supernatural illusion.Ghosts, spirits, prophecies, rebirths , being taught that truth in anything written 3000 years or before etc.

Where people are encouraged to believe more in the supernatural god & prayers than to live a fuller life now.

A supernatural religion is as a matter of fact, opium for the masses.

[Neo-Scholastic]

A supernatural religion is as a matter of fact, opium for the masses.

Thankfully, general revelation rationally supports the Christianity religion.

[FatAndFaithless]

Got about a billion Muslims that say you're wrong Chaddy.

[DramaQueen]

General revelation? ?

[Aoi Magi]

Everything you experience is with your brain just like everyone else. Religious experience doesn't occur through any extra organ which only a few people can have. The brain is a natural organ, and the "experiences" are also chemical changes within that brain, so before jumping on the supernatural wagon, make sure there are no possible naturalistic explanations left.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Got about a billion Muslims that say you're wrong Chaddy.

Actually, they would agree. I specifically referred to general revelation which is the God of classical theism. Special revelation is a different story.

[FatAndFaithless]

Got about a billion Muslims that say you're wrong Chaddy.

Actually, they would agree. I specifically referred to general revelation which is the God of classical theism. Special revelation is a different story.

general revelation rationally supports the Christianity religion.

That's your claim, Muslims would disagree. Simple.