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Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
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#121
RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Luckie, get that reasoned evidence and honest consideration of the facts out of here.
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RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 4:08 pm
(November 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Rather comically, Hovind Sr actually accepts evolution... he just doesn't want to call it that:

I haven't got the nerve to watch 17 minutes of douche right now. What's the banana doing there? Did Ray Comfort lose it?
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RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm
You're safe; the douchery is diluted by rationality. PotHoler is a respected science commentator.
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#124
RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 4:25 pm
(November 14, 2014 at 4:07 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Luckie, get that reasoned evidence and honest consideration of the facts out of here.

Awww okay

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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#125
RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 4:47 pm
@ Esq

You did a good job rebuting HM opening statement. You could of made a stronger argument against macro evolution. For example,

1. HM thinks "macro" evolution allows for a fish to go to a non-fish. Such a process would be a violation of evolution because it would be a jump from one branch to another branch on the evolutionary tree.

2. Once two groups of a species can no longer produce viable offspring, the micro evolutionary changes between the two groups will grow more pronounce until they are two very different looking species even to a creationist.

Also, I would of demanded a definition of what a kind is. Not examples, but a definition.
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RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 5:00 pm
Oh my god HM is actually going with the fucking crocoduck argument and has no idea what evolution is. Why in the hell am I even surprised at this.
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RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 5:05 pm
Where else was this going to go?
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#128
RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 5:06 pm
(November 14, 2014 at 5:00 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Why in the hell am I even surprised at this.

You shouldn't be. After a very short time I only read Esquis replies to HMs posts, since that was at least entertaining and lessened the facepalm impulse of the quoted posts.
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RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 5:52 pm
(November 14, 2014 at 5:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Where else was this going to go?

Mmm maybe the theist would purposefully post out of turn (again disrupting debate protocol) because his Majesty's pride has been butt hurt by cold hard facts? Yeah. That.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Discussion on debate between Esquilax and His_Majesty.
November 14, 2014 at 6:30 pm
Awe cuthlu please turn it back on, I wonna see the ending!
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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