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"Very very close to the second coming" again.
#21
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
(December 12, 2014 at 10:20 pm)professor Wrote: Thanks for the news on Greg.
Glad to see he is hanging in there.
Maybe you guys can take turns. You predicted the rapture back in September, this clown is predicting it "soon." I'm not sure how long before "soon" becomes "yeah, I got it wrong again" but after that you can give us the next target date, and so on.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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#22
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
Clown?
OK I can do that.
Greg gave you the standard view.
There are alternative views, not taught:

Counting 7 biblical years from the covenant the antichrist made on my birthday in '08 to CHANGE the nation and the world- we end up the day of my anniversary date at work (Israel date time begins the evening prior) next year- the evening of Sept 22 2015-
Day of Atonement Sept.23, for the 2nd Coming.

OR, with the Rapture happening this Christmas- with the same date of Sept 22/23 Jewish time, there are just under 280 days (human gestation period) from the Rapt to the Second Coming on that date next year.

Jesus said how hard it would be for pregnant women during the time of Testing- He did NOT say it would be hard for children, leaving me to consider that there will not be any on earth during that time after the Rapture and any woman getting pregnant during the Trib. would not likely deliver until it is over.

OR, the 1260 days duration of the Great Tribulation begins at the Rapture and lasts until the time frame of fifty years past the 6 day War with the declaration to rebuild Jerusalem (unto Messiah)-
the 120th Jubilee and a single Jubilee past that war.

My personal Clown view is we are IN the Trib right now.
The antichrist can't make his big move until we are out of here.
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#23
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
(December 13, 2014 at 9:30 am)professor Wrote: Clown?
OK I can do that.
Greg gave you the standard view.
There are alternative views, not taught:

Counting 7 biblical years from the covenant the antichrist made on my birthday in '08 to CHANGE the nation and the world- we end up the day of my anniversary date at work (Israel date time begins the evening prior) next year- the evening of Sept 22 2015-
Day of Atonement Sept.23, for the 2nd Coming.

OR, with the Rapture happening this Christmas- with the same date of Sept 22/23 Jewish time, there are just under 280 days (human gestation period) from the Rapt to the Second Coming on that date next year.

Jesus said how hard it would be for pregnant women during the time of Testing- He did NOT say it would be hard for children, leaving me to consider that there will not be any on earth during that time after the Rapture and any woman getting pregnant during the Trib. would not likely deliver until it is over.

OR, the 1260 days duration of the Great Tribulation begins at the Rapture and lasts until the time frame of fifty years past the 6 day War with the declaration to rebuild Jerusalem (unto Messiah)-
the 120th Jubilee and a single Jubilee past that war.

My personal Clown view is we are IN the Trib right now.
The antichrist can't make his big move until we are out of here.

No one takes your personal views seriously.

Seriously.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#24
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
(December 13, 2014 at 9:30 am)professor Wrote: Clown?
OK I can do that.
Greg gave you the standard view.
There are alternative views, not taught:

Counting 7 biblical years from the covenant the antichrist made on my birthday in '08 to CHANGE the nation and the world- we end up the day of my anniversary date at work (Israel date time begins the evening prior) next year- the evening of Sept 22 2015-
Day of Atonement Sept.23, for the 2nd Coming.

OR, with the Rapture happening this Christmas- with the same date of Sept 22/23 Jewish time, there are just under 280 days (human gestation period) from the Rapt to the Second Coming on that date next year.

Jesus said how hard it would be for pregnant women during the time of Testing- He did NOT say it would be hard for children, leaving me to consider that there will not be any on earth during that time after the Rapture and any woman getting pregnant during the Trib. would not likely deliver until it is over.

OR, the 1260 days duration of the Great Tribulation begins at the Rapture and lasts until the time frame of fifty years past the 6 day War with the declaration to rebuild Jerusalem (unto Messiah)-
the 120th Jubilee and a single Jubilee past that war.

My personal Clown view is we are IN the Trib right now.
The antichrist can't make his big move until we are out of here.

Why would Jesus come now? He didn't come during the Black Death when a large number of human beings died. He didn't come during the Holocaust when Jewish people, Gypsies, disabled people and homosexuals were killed by the Nazis. There has been a lot of human tragedy, some of it on a large scale, and god didn't return. The impression that I get from most Christians is that god cares more about the sex acts between consenting adults then he does the suffering of the creatures that he created. It seems that he is more upset that two consenting males have a relationship then the many people throughout history that have died in sometimes horrific ways.

I have also noticed that my friends are very American centered in their rapture scenarios. On one hand, they will acknowledge, in appropriately sad tones, that Christians in other part of the world suffer persecution. Yet, these same people turn around and gleefully exclaim that they don't have to worry about the end time suffering because god will whisk them up to heaven before they have to go through any of that kind of persecution.
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#25
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
(December 13, 2014 at 9:30 am)professor Wrote: My personal Clown view is we are IN the Trib right now.
The antichrist can't make his big move until we are out of here.

You're the guy who incorrectly predicted it for Semptember, right?

That explains your courtesy to this guy ... professional courtesy amongst charlatans, and all.

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#26
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
One question.

Where in the bible does it state that the "Antichrist" will come?

I see only two references to the "Antichrist" and that is actually referring to atheists.

Let us see how the 'sky-daddy's' children contort this.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#27
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
Jesus is so close to coming again some of the christers can almost taste it
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#28
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
You misspelled coming. Devil
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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#29
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
Oh, that's an accurate spelling, according to the OED (see #6).

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#30
RE: "Very very close to the second coming" again.
(December 13, 2014 at 11:46 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Oh, that's an accurate spelling, according to the OED (see #6).
Finally a quote from a book we can trust
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