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Poll: Where do they go?
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Dissociative identity disorder:
#21
RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
(January 9, 2015 at 10:42 pm)psychoslice Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 10:36 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Maybe the mental disorder is evidence of God's wrath in regards to a particularly vile sin already committed or contemplated??

I think then the one who god bestowed the mental illness on will still go to heaven , as he would have suffered here on the earth.


It is impossible to suffer infinite torment on earth in the first place, and in the second, it is impossible to suffer infinite torment in a finite time on earth.

It is also possible the sin and subsequent punishment accrued during an ancestor's life, correct me if I'm off here, but I believe unto the seventh generation.

Also, it is (apparently) possible the sin in this case might go all the way back to Eve. Or Ham. Or Cain. Or Amalek. And probably a whole bunch more.

We're talking God here, btw, he could be touchy 'bout most anything or nuthin', instead of me 'splainin' reed yer bibble.
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#22
RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
(January 9, 2015 at 12:11 pm)robvalue Wrote: I remember matt D mentioning a "split brain" person, who had to have the two sides of their brain separated to save their life. One half became an atheist, and the other half theist. True story, I believe.

I am rude when giving other figures to myself:
I think i was (multi?) theist when born.
I think i became atheist 'later on'.
I refound my theisme after ten years atheisme (started with the birth of my first son, but it changed also from 'way of looking' at it, so i do not know if it is the same 'theisme' then)

Now, becoming half a century old i give myself these figures:

I am 100% atheist (not 50%)
I am 113% theist (not 50%)

Together wit bot sides, i do not feel like having a dissociative identity disorder, on the contrary, but it feels like 'only' living for 113% in total. Just like man + woman made 13 for my parents (11 living kids).

Am i mad or can you follow me somewhere? (is it not what we 'make' of it in our heads?)
1. If i step backwards, i am preparing to jump.
2. If you will not do it, i will.
3. I have never met a person who does not believe (in some...thing)
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#23
RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
Wow, deep question. I have one for you; what do Unicorn farts smell like?




I'm at least 110% sure about that. Jerkoff
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#24
RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
I voted heaven because I'm a nice guy.
But, it's actually, like, neither...
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#25
RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
(January 10, 2015 at 9:26 am)Spooky Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Drich Wrote: They like the rest go to judgement, where per hebrews 4 Jesus (the word) splits soul, from, spirit, mind from body and judge each and every aspect of man.

Can you elaborate?

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#26
RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
As the personality is split, the soul shall be as well, duh. Half of the soul will go to heaven and the other half to hell.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
Does the head-half of the soul go to heaven? Or do God and satan take turns picking body parts?
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#28
RE: Dissociative identity disorder:
(January 9, 2015 at 10:23 pm)Drich Wrote: They like the rest go to judgement, where per hebrews 4 Jesus (the word) splits soul, from, spirit, mind from body and judge each and every aspect of man.
I have looked up your text, because I did not remember this Hebrew text:
4:10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. 4:11 Therefore let us be diligent to enter that rest, so that no one will fall, through following the same example of disobedience.
4:12 For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 4:13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.
4:14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.…

I have still to think this very difficult text over, but from Hebrew Orthodox Jew to Qor'an I recognize this text in what is often said as the "seven most used paired verses":

These are "oft-repeated" by all Muslims in Prayers.

Surah 1. The Opening
1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
6. Show us the straight way,
7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.

The sword (= s word, very strange combination, take care we do not think of sword as word, in Dutch "zwaard" as "woord") is very sharp and cuts both ways. Seeing to the initial text in Hebrew it does not split mind FROM soul, but it does go through the splitting of the soul AND throught the splitting of the 'ghost', AND through the splitting of every combination of soul and ghost. He/It/?? has an opinion about our (true?) thoughts and about the combination of many hearts together.

This makes me further think about the text 'before religion was' of Hermes Trismegistus, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus and his Tabula Smaragdina, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet so to the most old, perhaps most deep and 'unnamed' belief of human being.

Especially sentence 11 there (which is sentence 12 in Hebrew quoted by Drich, my thanks for that) seems to me to be the same (force = sword):

11. Haec est totius fortitudinis fortitudo fortis, quia vincet omnem rem subtilem, omnemque solidam penetrabit.

translation by Newton in his alchemical papers:
11. Its force is above all force. For it vanquishes every subtle thing & penetrates every solid thing.

It makes this tread... more mysterious than ever before, i... feel? think?

+je
1. If i step backwards, i am preparing to jump.
2. If you will not do it, i will.
3. I have never met a person who does not believe (in some...thing)
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