You all convinced me, I'm now an Atheist!!!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As of this moment, I am going to call myself a Christian. I don't believe in God, I deny both the historicity and the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth, I find the Bible to be no better and no worse than what is to be expected from a load of cobbled-together myths of a group of nomadic semi-literate semi-savages, and I find ALL the doctrines unique to Christianity both morally and socially repugnant to any person with a shred of human compassion.

But I insist that people call me a Christian.

Fuxxake, Drich.

Boru

[fr0d0]

Know plenty of them BORU

And pappy of popye... where's the UK Salvation Army?

[Ryantology]

You all have sucessfully blurred the lines of belief enough for me to call myself an atheist! You all have convinced me with your endless arguements that despite what 'rule' a given affiliation may have they mean little to nothing compared to what a person 'feels' or claims for himself.

So... I feel like I have spent enough time around atheists to identify myself as one by proxcimity (Not by core belief) But as you all say core belief is just a formality. Who are any of you to say I am not an atheist if i say that I am?

So from now on I wish to be identified as a God loving Atheist!


...That is unless you all can conceed that there are indeed rules to being affiliated with a given group, other than a verbal proclaimation stating that one is indeed apart of said group.

You seem to be on a mission to prove how much of a dumb ass you are. I mean, we explained to you how this works in the other thread, before you made this one. So that has to be it.

That being the case, I wish you even more success. I have faith in you, even.

[Foxaèr]

A bit early for April Fool's Day, aren't you Drich?

[Drich]

The difference is this.

an atheist by definition does not believe in god.

You do.

You however don't think people should not be classed as Christians because they don't believe in Christ in the same way as you.

Do you see the difference?

If Drich could see the difference this thread wouldn't exist.

I am however wondering which (if any) of the well established Christian sects Drich believes is the correct one.

Pick a sect Drich. Any sect.

Advent Christian General Conference
Adventist Connections
African Methodist Episcopal Church
African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
American Association of Lutheran Churches, The
American Baptist Association
American Baptist Churches-USA
American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Diocese of the U.S.A.
American Ethical Union
American Evangelical Christian Churches
American Unitarian Conference
Anabaptist Groups
Anglican Catholic Church
Anglican Church
Anglican Church in America, The
Anglican Province of Christ the King
Antiochian Catholic Church in America
Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America
Apostolic/American Orthodox Catholic Church
Apostolic Christian Churches of America
Apostolic Faith Mission of Portland, OR
Apostolic Lutheran Church of America
Apostolic World Christian Fellowship
Armenian Apostolic Church of America [Catholicosate of Cilicia]: Eastern Prelacy 
Armenian Apostolic Church of America [Cathlicosate of Etchmiadzin]: Western Diocese
Assemblies of God
Assemblies of God International Fellowship (Independent)
Association of Free Lutheran Congregations
Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
Association of Unity Churches
Association of Vineyard Churches
Bahá'í - The Bahá'í Faith
Baptist Bible Fellowship International
Baptist General Conference
Baptist Missionary Association of America
Baptist Organizations, Various
Bible Fellowship Church
Brethren Church, Ashland, OH
Brethren, Church of the
Brethren in Christ Church
Buddhist Information Network
Byzantine Catholic Church in America
Calvary Chapel
Canadian Unitarian Council
Catholic Apostolic Church in North America
Catholic Charismatic Church
Catholic Information Network
Catholic Online
Central Conference of American Rabbis
Charismatic Episcopal Church
Christian & Missionary Alliance
Christian Church of North America
Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
Christian Reformed Church
Church of Christ, Scientist
Church of All Worlds 
Church of Christ
International Churches of Christ
Church of God (Anderson)
Church of God (Cleveland, TN)
Church of God (Holiness)
Church of God General Conference
Church of God in Christ
Church of God of Prophecy
Church of God, Seventh Day
Church of God, The
Church of Illumination
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Church of the Brethren
Church of the Lutheran Brethren
Church of the Lutheran Confession
Church of the Nazarene
Church of the United Brethren in Christ
Church Universal and Triumphant
Churches of God, General Conference
Community of Christ
Conservative Judaism - United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism
Cooperative Baptist Fellowship
Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches
Congregational Holiness Church
Conservative Baptist Association of America
Conservative Congregational Christian Conference
Coptic Orthodox Church
Covenant of the Goddess
Creation 7th Day Adventist Church
Cumberland Presbyterian 
Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America
Disciples of Christ
Episcopal Church
Episcopal Missionary Church
Ethical Culture
Evangelical Christian Church in Canada
Evangelical Christian Church Inc.
Evangelical Congregational Church
Evangelical Covenant Church
Evangelical Free Church of America
Evangelical Friends International
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Evangelical Lutheran Synod
Evangelical Methodist Church
Evangelical Presbyterian Church
Fellowship of Christian Assemblies
Fellowship of  Grace Brethren Churches
Fire Baptized Holiness Church of God of the
Americas
Free Methodist Church of North America
Free Presbyterian Church
Free Reformed Churches of North America
Friends General Conference
Friends United Meeting
Full Gospel Baptist Church Fellowship
Full Gospel Fellowship of Churches and Ministers
General Association of General Baptists
General Association of Regular Baptist Churches
General Association of Six-Principle Baptist Churches
General Church of the New Jerusalem
Gnosticism, Links to Gnostic Organizations
Grace Brethren Church
Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
Holy Eastern Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church in North America, The
Hutterian Brethren
Hinduism - Links to Hindu Organizations
IFCA International
Independent Anglican Church
Independent Baptist Network
Independent Fundamentalist Churches of America
International Apostolic Fellowship, Inc.
International Churches of Christ, Boston
International Church of the Foursquare Gospel
International Communion of the Charismatic Episcopal Church
International Council of Community Churches
International Fellowship of Bible Churches
International Pentecostal Church of Christ
International Pentecostal Holiness Church
Islamic Society of North America
Jewish Reconstructionist Federation
Jewish Theological Seminary of America, The
Liberal Catholic Church International
Liberal Catholic Church - Theosophia Synod
Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod, official
Lutheran Orthodox Church, The
Malankara Archdiocese of the Syrian Orthodox Church in North America
Mar Thoma Syrian Church
U.S. Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches
Mennonite Church USA
Mennonite - Conservative Mennonite Conference
Mennonite - The Evangelical Mennonite Conference
Mennonite Information Center
Church bodies within the Mennonite tradition
Messianic Jewish Alliance of America
Missionary Church USA
Moravian Church in America
Mount Calvary Holy Church of America
Muslim Student Association
Nation Of Islam
National Association of Congregational Christian Churches
National Association of Evangelicals
National Association of Free Will Baptist Churches
National Baptist Convention of America, Inc.
National Council of Churches
National Organization of the New Apostolic Church of North America
National Spiritualist Association of Churches
Nichiren Shoshu Buddhism   more information
Nontheistic Judaism - Society for Humanistic Judaism
North American Baptist Conference
North American Christian Convention
Old Roman Catholic Church in North America
Orthodox Catholic Church of America
Orthodox Church in America
Orthodox Judaism
Orthodox Judaism - Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations
Orthodox Judaism - National Council of Young Israel
Orthodox Judaism - Chabad-Lubavitch
Orthodox/Renewal Judaism - Worldwide Chevra Communities of Reb Shlomo Carlebach, ZY"A
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
The Pagan Federation
Pentecostal Assemblies of the World
Pentecostal Church of God
Pentecostal Fire-Baptized Holiness Church
Pillar of Fire International
Polish National Catholic Church
Presbyterian Church in America
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
Primitive Baptist Church
Primitive Methodist Church in the U.S.A.
Progressive National Baptist Church
The Raelian Movement
Reconstructionist Judaism - Jewish Reconstructionist Federation
Reform Judaism - Union for Reformed Judaism
Reformed Church in America
Reformed Church in the U.S.
Reformed Episcopal Church
Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America
Religious Society of Friends
Renewal Judaism - ALEPH: Alliance for Jewish Renewal
Roman Catholic, US Catholic Conference
Romanian Episcopate of the Orthodox Church in America
Russian Orthodox Church outside of Russia
Salvation Army U.S.
Separate Baptists in Christ
Serbian Orthodox Church in the USA/New Gracanica Metropolitanate
Servants, The Church of
Seventh Day Adventists
Seventh Day Baptist Churches
Shamash, Judaism
Sikhism Home Page, The
Six Principle Baptists
Southern Baptist Convention
Southern Episcopal Church
Sovereign Grace Baptist Association
Swedenborgian Church
Syrian Orthodox Church: Archdiocese of the Eastern US
Traditional Orthodox Christian Archdiocese
Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the U.S.A. and the Diaspora
Union for Reform Judaism
Unitarian Universalist Association
United Church of Christ
United Communities of Spirit
United Methodist Church
United Pentecostal Church International
United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism
Unity, Association of Unity Churches
Unity of the Brethren
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
Universalist Church
The Vatican
Victory Outreach International 
Wesleyan Church
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
World Council of Churches
World Pantheism
Worldwide Church of God

Somehow I invisioned a list of 40,000 denominations to be... Idk, longer for some reason.

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As of this moment, I am going to call myself a Christian. I don't believe in God, I deny both the historicity and the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth, I find the Bible to be no better and no worse than what is to be expected from a load of cobbled-together myths of a group of nomadic semi-literate semi-savages, and I find ALL the doctrines unique to Christianity both morally and socially repugnant to any person with a shred of human compassion.

But I insist that people call me a Christian.

Fuxxake, Drich.

Boru

Your example is exactly my point. Mormons don't even believe in the God of the bible, or the Jesus Christ outlined in the bible yet somehow they are christian, so why not you too? If you're a christian who doesn't believe in God then why can't I be an theist who does? Why do the rules only work in favor of your club?

[Davka]

I am an Atheist Christian, aka the Mighty Penis of the Lord.

[FallentoReason]

What's the point of this thread? Semantics about group names aren't going to convince anyone of your faith.

[Ryantology]

You're accusing others of not worshiping Jesus as outlined in the Bible, yet you insist that Paul's opinions on Mosaic Law supersede Jesus' extremely specific words in the Sermon on the Mount.

By your own standards, you're no more a true Christian than any Mormon. When your savior says something you don't like, you just pretend he didn't mean it.

And you think you're going anywhere but hell when you die. That's the really funny part.

[Nope]

I looked up Mormon beliefs

http://www.mormon.org/faq/belief-in-jesus-christ

What in this contradicts Christianity?

Jesus Christ is the literal Son of God. His birth, life, death, and resurrection fulfilled the many prophecies contained in the scriptures concerning the coming of a Savior. He was the Creator, He is our Savior, and He will be our Judge (see Isaiah 9:6, 53:3-7; Psalms 22:16-18).

Under the direction of our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ created the earth (John 1:10; Hebrews 1:2).

When Jesus lived on the earth (approximately 2,000 years ago), He led a perfect life. He taught by word and example how people should live in love of God and others.

Through His suffering in the Garden of Gethsemane and by giving His life on the cross—that is, by performing the Atonement —Jesus Christ saves us from our sins (1 Peter 2:21) as we follow Him. Because of the Atonement, you can be forgiven of your sins when you sincerely repent (Book of Mormon, Mosiah 26:30).

Through His Resurrection, Jesus Christ saved us from death. Because He overcame death, we will all be given the gift of resurrection, that is to say our spirits will be eternally re-united with our bodies (Acts 24:15; 1 Corinthians 15:22). When life on this earth is over, Jesus Christ will be the final Judge (Acts 17:31; John 5:21-22; Acts 10:42).

[Drich]

I looked up Mormon beliefs

http://www.mormon.org/faq/belief-in-jesus-christ

What in this contradicts Christianity?

Jesus Christ is the literal Son of God. His birth, life, death, and resurrection fulfilled the many prophecies contained in the scriptures concerning the coming of a Savior. He was the Creator, He is our Savior, and He will be our Judge (see Isaiah 9:6, 53:3-7; Psalms 22:16-18).

Under the direction of our Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ created the earth (John 1:10; Hebrews 1:2).

When Jesus lived on the earth (approximately 2,000 years ago), He led a perfect life. He taught by word and example how people should live in love of God and others.

Through His suffering in the Garden of Gethsemane and by giving His life on the cross—that is, by performing the Atonement —Jesus Christ saves us from our sins (1 Peter 2:21) as we follow Him. Because of the Atonement, you can be forgiven of your sins when you sincerely repent (Book of Mormon, Mosiah 26:30).

Through His Resurrection, Jesus Christ saved us from death. Because He overcame death, we will all be given the gift of resurrection, that is to say our spirits will be eternally re-united with our bodies (Acts 24:15; 1 Corinthians 15:22). When life on this earth is over, Jesus Christ will be the final Judge (Acts 17:31; John 5:21-22; Acts 10:42).

Is it your belief that the Mormon view of Christ stops at what you have outlined here?

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You would think out of four canonical gospels they could find a few more similarities between their version, and the biblical version of Christ if they were truly trying to sell the fact that they are christian