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Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
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Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
(January 22, 2015 at 6:48 pm)professor Wrote: Now- the puzzle.
When you find pieces that fit, you join them, actually this puzzle is far bigger than the big ones ( I hate picture puzzles- by the way). But as time, study and life events pass, the puzzle becomes more and more clear.

The problem is that you can brainwash yourself into believing anything and it will all make sense if you want it to.
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#22
RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
Hi Jenny, I think for guys, getting off the throne would be more readily understood.

Because of the macho, "I did it my way" nonsense that seems endemic to men is not as big a stumbling block to women.

All leaps of faith are based on something.
Nobody jumps for nothing.
I had sufficient input (and motivation) to go, where I didn't (and most people do not) want to go.
Thinking about my post, relaying the first page or two of a long book (for the sake of brevity) and a smidgen of a glimpse of the middle, leaves a lot on the table.

As far as being brainwashed- that is the venue of the System- from which we are spoon-fed lies- in the same way as the Nazis did, only better.
Check a mirror for brainwashing.
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RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
(January 22, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Nope Wrote:
(January 22, 2015 at 5:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I would need a robust theory of consciousness based on physical reduction. Give me that and I would be tempted to return to my former atheism.
...could you answer in plain English?
For me to accept a naturalistic solution to the mind-body problem, it must show that the physical operations of the brain actually generate subjective experiences and meanings.
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#24
RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
Read the whole fucking bible do not cherry pick and keep going over and over on it you are bound to become a atheist and realize how irrational the bible is.

(January 22, 2015 at 9:53 pm)professor Wrote: Hi Jenny, I think for guys, getting off the throne would be more readily understood.

Because of the macho, "I did it my way" nonsense that seems endemic to men is not as big a stumbling block to women.

All leaps of faith are based on something.
Nobody jumps for nothing.
I had sufficient input (and motivation) to go, where I didn't (and most people do not) want to go.
Thinking about my post, relaying the first page or two of a long book (for the sake of brevity) and a smidgen of a glimpse of the middle, leaves a lot on the table.

As far as being brainwashed- that is the venue of the System- from which we are spoon-fed lies- in the same way as the Nazis did, only better.
Check a mirror for brainwashing.

Checkmate that is how indoctrination works. Indoctrination created ignorant people since always. Hitler perfected indoctrination after well he died guess who picked up the methods the church did.
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RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
There is nothing natural about theology. It is mere fiction created by imaginative men who wanted a simple answer to the questions to which they did not readily find answers.

All it takes for any theists to stop relying on faith is to prefer reality over fantasy. Pure and simple.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#26
RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
(January 22, 2015 at 10:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(January 22, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Nope Wrote: ...could you answer in plain English?
For me to accept a naturalistic solution to the mind-body problem, it must show that the physical operations of the brain actually generate subjective experiences and meanings.

But the brain is where your personal opinions and feelings originate or are you using a different definition of subjective than I am.

Thank you for taking the time to reword your answer, Chad.

(January 22, 2015 at 6:09 pm)professor Wrote: DarkHorse and Darkstar nailed it for me.
Couldn't have put it better, thanks guys!
It is possible to walk away from what you know for a fact, I suppose people have done it for the world's goodies, after all, Lucifer and a bunch of his idiot friends did the same.
It takes a huge load of stupidity.

So, your answer is basically nothing could convince you that god isn't real?
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RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
(January 22, 2015 at 6:09 pm)professor Wrote: DarkHorse and Darkstar nailed it for me.
Couldn't have put it better, thanks guys!
It is possible to walk away from what you know for a fact, I suppose people have done it for the world's goodies, after all, Lucifer and a bunch of his idiot friends did the same.
It takes a huge load of stupidity.

It takes a huge load of stupidity to carry on believing the hogwash you're so deep into.
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#28
RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
An old saying comes to mind Nope, A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with a theory.
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#29
RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
(January 23, 2015 at 8:15 am)professor Wrote: An old saying comes to mind Nope, A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with a theory.

Not always true in a changing world, my friend.

It may have been true back in the day when the world wasn't changing, but that has changed and now it is.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#30
RE: Theists, What Would It Take For You To Lose Your Faith?
Un installation of the martyr chip, and an upgrade to mid teen level logic.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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