Denmark attacked.

[Dystopia]

No, that is bullshit. If the Hebrew religion had never been invented there would be no "Semite" word to throw around.

If is not relevant, if religion was never invented the world would be a better place. But it was, and now we have to deal with it

I am tired of the fucking bullshit that this has nothing to do with religion. BOTH Muslims and Jews run between race and religion and use the argument's to avoid that RELIGION is the core problem.

Since not all Jews are religiously Jewish I doubt that is true.

Jew is not a race, Islam is not a race. Those are both fucking excuses to hide behind old books of myth. There were humans mixing the entire existence of both, and humans whom mixed prior to those religions existing at all.

Don't you get tired of using the same argument? Jew isn't a race like white or black isn't a race (biologically), but culturally it exists. Anti-Semitism is not motivated by religion, it is motivated by ethnicity and economic discrimination. If you deny this then go read a fucking book. Neo-nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists, ultra-conservatives, holocaust deniers and Muslim terrorists hate Jews for simply being ethnically jews, for racial reasons.

You fucking give BOTH the excuse they need to perpetuate "Chosen people" bullshit. That is what it is ultimately about. It is about a sky daddy war and the holy books of both religions being used as excuses to keep land or take land. It is mythological childish bullshit tribalism. Giving either the issue of race is to give cover to the core cause.

Nah, it is much more than that, how many Jews do you actually know to say this? Jewish is an ethno-religious and cultural group, and a very diverse one in itself.

No, sorry, you are not going to lump me in with bigots and allow Jews to ignore the their own flaws in logic. No one deserve to hide behind race as an excuse to avoid the harm religion causes.

Did you just miss the part that being Jewish doesn't correspond to being religiously Jewish?

Muslims pull this shit too. The race card is used BY BOTH to avoid the real cause which is religion.

No, anti-Semitism is racial based.

No, once you know our species is much older than both religions, and once you know our human DNA is traced back to our common ancestors, the issues of race and or religion are merely fucking excuses our species makes to set up social pecking orders.

If we could erase that it would be great.

I am not going to have you or anyone falsely accuse me of any form of bigotry or accuse me of ignoring bigotry when I am simply pointing out the real truth. We are the same species PERIOD. Any Jew who cant handle criticism or blasphemy to me is no fucking better than any Muslim who cant handle it.

Yeah we are, but culturally race exists

Our planet is much older than both religions and our skin tones and boarders do not change, nor will every change that we are equal as a species.

No, I am not going to let anyone get away with it.

True

Fuck the word "Arab" for Muslims to hide behind race. Fuck the word Zion and Semite and Jew as claims of race. FUCK RACE FUCK RELIGION we are still the same species and I am tired of BOTH sides failing to see that. Jews today to me have less of an excuse to ignore that because they have had a longer history of western pluralism.

Arab isn't just to hide behind race, it is a word to describe middle easterns. Some people genuinely dislike Islam, others dislike non-white cultures. There's a difference

Labels have never or will ever make us a separate species. The world needs to grow the fuck up.

Your method to accomplish it is inefficient. If you think I am lying, why don't you read Mein Kampf? I am challenging you to do it. Go read it, and come tell me Jew-hatred and anti-Jew conspiracy theories are based on religion... They're not, they're based on racial hatred against Jews. In Europe there's a group of 10+ parties that have their agenda set up on neo-nazism and Anti-Semitism, they hate Jews. The reason why Israel needs to exist is because the world has proven it is not safe for Jewish population, never... It is on the rise again.

Criticizing Jews is the only allowed discrimination in Europe. If I'm anti-Islam, I am racist, if I'm anti-Christianity, I am a bigot and hate my historical heritage, if I am anti-Buddhism, I am a bigot who hates other cultures. If I criticize Israel, Jews and support Palestine then it's perfectly acceptable. If someone blows up a Synagogue or a Jewish place with anti-Semitic motives then the media can't say the real cause. If it's against Muslims then it's "Islamophobia".

[Brian37]

No, that is bullshit. If the Hebrew religion had never been invented there would be no "Semite" word to throw around.

If is not relevant, if religion was never invented the world would be a better place. But it was, and now we have to deal with it

I am tired of the fucking bullshit that this has nothing to do with religion. BOTH Muslims and Jews run between race and religion and use the argument's to avoid that RELIGION is the core problem.

Since not all Jews are religiously Jewish I doubt that is true.

Jew is not a race, Islam is not a race. Those are both fucking excuses to hide behind old books of myth. There were humans mixing the entire existence of both, and humans whom mixed prior to those religions existing at all.

Don't you get tired of using the same argument? Jew isn't a race like white or black isn't a race (biologically), but culturally it exists. Anti-Semitism is not motivated by religion, it is motivated by ethnicity and economic discrimination. If you deny this then go read a fucking book. Neo-nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists, ultra-conservatives, holocaust deniers and Muslim terrorists hate Jews for simply being ethnically jews, for racial reasons.

You fucking give BOTH the excuse they need to perpetuate "Chosen people" bullshit. That is what it is ultimately about. It is about a sky daddy war and the holy books of both religions being used as excuses to keep land or take land. It is mythological childish bullshit tribalism. Giving either the issue of race is to give cover to the core cause.

Nah, it is much more than that, how many Jews do you actually know to say this? Jewish is an ethno-religious and cultural group, and a very diverse one in itself.

No, sorry, you are not going to lump me in with bigots and allow Jews to ignore the their own flaws in logic. No one deserve to hide behind race as an excuse to avoid the harm religion causes.

Did you just miss the part that being Jewish doesn't correspond to being religiously Jewish?

Muslims pull this shit too. The race card is used BY BOTH to avoid the real cause which is religion.

No, anti-Semitism is racial based.

No, once you know our species is much older than both religions, and once you know our human DNA is traced back to our common ancestors, the issues of race and or religion are merely fucking excuses our species makes to set up social pecking orders.

If we could erase that it would be great.

I am not going to have you or anyone falsely accuse me of any form of bigotry or accuse me of ignoring bigotry when I am simply pointing out the real truth. We are the same species PERIOD. Any Jew who cant handle criticism or blasphemy to me is no fucking better than any Muslim who cant handle it.

Yeah we are, but culturally race exists

Our planet is much older than both religions and our skin tones and boarders do not change, nor will every change that we are equal as a species.

No, I am not going to let anyone get away with it.

True

Fuck the word "Arab" for Muslims to hide behind race. Fuck the word Zion and Semite and Jew as claims of race. FUCK RACE FUCK RELIGION we are still the same species and I am tired of BOTH sides failing to see that. Jews today to me have less of an excuse to ignore that because they have had a longer history of western pluralism.

Arab isn't just to hide behind race, it is a word to describe middle easterns. Some people genuinely dislike Islam, others dislike non-white cultures. There's a difference

Labels have never or will ever make us a separate species. The world needs to grow the fuck up.

Your method to accomplish it is inefficient. If you think I am lying, why don't you read Mein Kampf? I am challenging you to do it. Go read it, and come tell me Jew-hatred and anti-Jew conspiracy theories are based on religion... They're not, they're based on racial hatred against Jews. In Europe there's a group of 10+ parties that have their agenda set up on neo-nazism and Anti-Semitism, they hate Jews. The reason why Israel needs to exist is because the world has proven it is not safe for Jewish population, never... It is on the rise again.

What "method" do you need to state something very simple?

We are the same species. Any divisions concocted by humans are nothing more than our childish attempts to set up social pecking orders over one another. That does not change the fact we are the same species.

No method needed other than to tell all of humanity that no one group is the center of the planet or the universe.

You want to wade in their complicated needless childish tribalism, you can. I am fucking getting tired of it. There is only one species and the world needs to face that.

[Dystopia]

"There is only one species" - Go tell that to everyone who suffered any form of racial or ethnic prejudice, discrimination, hatred and violence. Go tell them that race doesn't exist. And then come tell me if it really fixed anything. Scientists have already asserted with evidence that we are all one species, but that's not going to erase racism and ethnic prejudices. We need to talk about race and ethnicity to solve those problems - Not talking about it, like Morgan Freeman proposed, is ignoring the problem and allowing it to grow. Saying Jews aren't race, while biologically accurate, is dismissing every potential experience Jewish people face because of anti-Semitic actions. Islam itself is not a race, but Arab is, and saying it isn't is dismissing experiences of non-Muslim middle easterns who suffered discrimination because society thought they were Muslims

Better yet - Go tell racial supremacists that race doesn't exist and see how much that will work out of you - The only way we are going to embrace the fact we are all one species is by talking and pointing out our ethnic differences and proving it is not a relevant variable. Simply saying that there are no races is giving a pass to any kind of racially based discrimination.

[Brian37]

"There is only one species" - Go tell that to everyone who suffered any form of racial or ethnic prejudice, discrimination, hatred and violence. Go tell them that race doesn't exist. And then come tell me if it really fixed anything. Scientists have already asserted with evidence that we are all one species, but that's not going to erase racism and ethnic prejudices. We need to talk about race and ethnicity to solve those problems - Not talking about it, like Morgan Freeman proposed, is ignoring the problem and allowing it to grow. Saying Jews aren't race, while biologically accurate, is dismissing every potential experience Jewish people face because of anti-Semitic actions. Islam itself is not a race, but Arab is, and saying it isn't is dismissing experiences of non-Muslim middle easterns who suffered discrimination because society thought they were Muslims

Better yet - Go tell racial supremacists that race doesn't exist and see how much that will work out of you - The only way we are going to embrace the fact we are all one species is by talking and pointing out our ethnic differences and proving it is not a relevant variable.

That is just it, right there. You stupidly think because I say we are the same species, I am saying your pain is merely something you need to "get over" it. NO just the opposite, you accept we are the same species, when you do that, that allows us to see all suffering as bad.

Instead what we have is HUMANS of any label, even within the same labels, pointing out their own suffering as if suffering is a patent held by one label.

When I was in Japan, my x wife took me to a museum that depicted their conflicts and their horrors of war going back way further than even WW1. It depicted their victims of war and genocide at the hands of China. And I am sure if you visit China they have museums that depict the horrors of their past as well.

Natives suffered at the hands of Christian Europeans. Blacks suffered at the hands of Christian Europeans. Christians and Muslims in Africa are equally brutal to each other.

All I am trying to tell you is that our cruelty that our species has always had the ability to inflict on each other, IS IN US. Unless we take labels out of it, we will use those labels and continue to inflict that harm on each other.

No one gets a pass. Bigotry exists precisely because humans use labels to divide and we think our particular club has a patent on our species suffering. You remember the suffering of all not just one. But you also do not get to hide behind it either to avoid criticism.

[Minimalist]

Hours later, a gunman opened fire outside a synagogue in Krystalgade street, about 5km from the scene of the first attack, killing a Jewish man and wounding two police officers.

The victim was named as Dan Uzan, 37. He had been on security duty while a bat mitzvah ceremony was taking place inside the synagogue.

So 3 'good guys' with guns were no match for one bad guy with a gun who was ready to use his. Kind of points up the stupidity of the NRA in insisting that we put armed men everywhere to keep us "safe."

[Chas]

Hours later, a gunman opened fire outside a synagogue in Krystalgade street, about 5km from the scene of the first attack, killing a Jewish man and wounding two police officers.

The victim was named as Dan Uzan, 37. He had been on security duty while a bat mitzvah ceremony was taking place inside the synagogue.

So 3 'good guys' with guns were no match for one bad guy with a gun who was ready to use his. Kind of points up the stupidity of the NRA in insisting that we put armed men everywhere to keep us "safe."

Uh-huh, because anecdotes make such good data.

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"There is only one species" - Go tell that to everyone who suffered any form of racial or ethnic prejudice, discrimination, hatred and violence. Go tell them that race doesn't exist. And then come tell me if it really fixed anything. Scientists have already asserted with evidence that we are all one species, but that's not going to erase racism and ethnic prejudices. We need to talk about race and ethnicity to solve those problems - Not talking about it, like Morgan Freeman proposed, is ignoring the problem and allowing it to grow. Saying Jews aren't race, while biologically accurate, is dismissing every potential experience Jewish people face because of anti-Semitic actions. Islam itself is not a race, but Arab is, and saying it isn't is dismissing experiences of non-Muslim middle easterns who suffered discrimination because society thought they were Muslims

Better yet - Go tell racial supremacists that race doesn't exist and see how much that will work out of you - The only way we are going to embrace the fact we are all one species is by talking and pointing out our ethnic differences and proving it is not a relevant variable. Simply saying that there are no races is giving a pass to any kind of racially based discrimination.

What racists define as race has no scientific merit, it is simply bigotry.

Jews aren't a race, they aren't even a clear genetic ethnicity. They are a cultural ethnicity. Who determines who is or is not Jewish?

I could post 20 pictures of 10 Jews and 10 Gentiles, you would not be able to tell who is who.

[Brian37]

So 3 'good guys' with guns were no match for one bad guy with a gun who was ready to use his. Kind of points up the stupidity of the NRA in insisting that we put armed men everywhere to keep us "safe."

Uh-huh, because anecdotes make such good data.

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"There is only one species" - Go tell that to everyone who suffered any form of racial or ethnic prejudice, discrimination, hatred and violence. Go tell them that race doesn't exist. And then come tell me if it really fixed anything. Scientists have already asserted with evidence that we are all one species, but that's not going to erase racism and ethnic prejudices. We need to talk about race and ethnicity to solve those problems - Not talking about it, like Morgan Freeman proposed, is ignoring the problem and allowing it to grow. Saying Jews aren't race, while biologically accurate, is dismissing every potential experience Jewish people face because of anti-Semitic actions. Islam itself is not a race, but Arab is, and saying it isn't is dismissing experiences of non-Muslim middle easterns who suffered discrimination because society thought they were Muslims

Better yet - Go tell racial supremacists that race doesn't exist and see how much that will work out of you - The only way we are going to embrace the fact we are all one species is by talking and pointing out our ethnic differences and proving it is not a relevant variable. Simply saying that there are no races is giving a pass to any kind of racially based discrimination.

What racists define as race has no scientific merit, it is simply bigotry.

Jews aren't a race, they aren't even a clear genetic ethnicity. They are a cultural ethnicity. Who determines who is or is not Jewish?

I could post 20 pictures of 10 Jews and 10 Gentiles, you would not be able to tell who is who.

Bingo! It is very easy for older people to migrate and the children be born in a new situation and end up different than the parents who brought them there.

[Dystopia]

What racists define as race has no scientific merit, it is simply bigotry.

Jews aren't a race, they aren't even a clear genetic ethnicity. They are a cultural ethnicity. Who determines who is or is not Jewish?

I could post 20 pictures of 10 Jews and 10 Gentiles, you would not be able to tell who is who.

No, and I could post 20 pictures of asians from different countries and you would not be able to tell who is Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, etc... But if I showed the picture to a native asian he/she would probably be able to tell so.

The fact there is no scientific merit is irrelevant because groups of bigots continue to push their agendas, the same way the lack of evidence doesn't stop religious people from pursuing their world dream.

Jews aren't a race the same way whites aren't a race. Race is cultural, it is a group of features we identify people with. I wouldn't be able to identify who's Jewish, but then again sometimes I am not able to identify who's white or who's black if there's mixed ancestry.

I am not saying hiding behind race is valid to refute Judaism critiques. I am saying that race shouldn't be ignored because racist people still exist, and they aren't a very tiny minority.

There is no race biologically, but there is race culturally and socially. Race exists as a social construct. Denying race is the same thing as denying culture. It exists despite not being a biological concept.

To answer your question - I'm not a specialist, but Jewish people usually say that everyone who has Jewish ancestry in the family is culturally and ethnically at least partly Jewish. Just like some people with minor African ancestry identify as black instead of white