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Wearing a crucifix
#21
RE: Wearing a crucifix
I thought you had.....Tongue
"The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility"

Albert Einstein
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#22
RE: Wearing a crucifix
(November 20, 2008 at 1:27 pm)Daystar Wrote: The Roman cross had a variety of shapes, from a simple pole to a cross shape or X shape. It was a phallic symbol. A representation of the penis worn around the necks of many.
I ain't wearing no penis around my neck!
Ankle...fine, but neck? Nooooo! :p

(November 20, 2008 at 3:27 pm)bozo Wrote: I find it mildly provocative. It is a statement of faith ( or fashion I admit ). If it is of faith, then that is provocative as far as I am concerned. I don't go round with any visible sign of my atheism.
Using popular Christian logic, I could say that not wearing anything that symbolises a religion is in itself symbolic of Atheism. I know I know, bald is not a hair colour, no need to tell *me* that!

(November 22, 2008 at 12:15 am)FaithvsEvidence Wrote: I have no evidence that jewelry is beneficial, and until we can prove it with the scientific method I will refuse to wear jewelry.
Hmmmm, clothes aren't beneficial in the warmer weather.
God forbid, I hope we don't see you running around naked come summer. What would your fellow church goers have to say about *that* little display? Wink

(and by 'little' I am in no way implying....wait, never mind)
Atheism as a Religion
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A man also or woman that hath a Macintosh, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with used and abandoned Windows 3.1 floppy disks: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27
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#23
RE: Wearing a crucifix
(November 20, 2008 at 5:46 am)Darwinian Wrote: Mind you, I did get this, 'oh dear' feeling when I saw the silver fish on the back of a car until I got closer and saw that it had legs and the name Darwin inside. Then I cheered right up...

I've got a Darwin Fish too but my wife won't let me be that "ansty" (she's always too bothered about what others think IMO) so it's stuck to the bottom of my monitor at home Smile

I seldom wear my upside down crucifix these days because I'm lazy, forgetful and I'm aware it might have a "career limiting" effect (even in the UK).

I do have a stylised silver crucifix (quite large actually) which I occasionally wear because it was my older brothers (died October last year). If I had the money I'd probably get the chain attachment moved to the other end thought so I could us it upside down ... such things are image I suppose but since I think image is a reflection of personality I feel they are definitely more than mere decoration. Besides they go well with the leather Big Grin

Kyu
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#24
RE: Wearing a crucifix
An upside down phallic symbol and a fish. I never have really understood people.
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#25
RE: Wearing a crucifix
(November 26, 2008 at 10:59 am)Daystar Wrote: An upside down phallic symbol and a fish. I never have really understood people.

OK, I concede I haven't read all this thread but where did someone establish a cross was a phallic symbol? Personally I think the Darwin fish is quite a clever play on the Christian fish symbol.

Kyu
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#26
RE: Wearing a crucifix
(November 27, 2008 at 4:21 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:
(November 26, 2008 at 10:59 am)Daystar Wrote: An upside down phallic symbol and a fish. I never have really understood people.

OK, I concede I haven't read all this thread but where did someone establish a cross was a phallic symbol? Personally I think the Darwin fish is quite a clever play on the Christian fish symbol.

Kyu

(November 20, 2008 at 1:27 pm)Daystar Wrote: There are a few words translated as cross, depending upon the language. Hebrew, Greek, or Latin. In the Greek and Latin the word can also be translated as a simple upright pole, but the Hebrew word can only be translated as a pole or tree. So the Bible doesn't teach that Jesus died on a cross, only an upright pole like the Hebrews used.

The Cross didn't become a symbol of Xianity (The X in Xianity comes from the shape of a cross) until Constantine introduced it. The cross is thought to have first been used by the Sumerian deity Tammuz (Dumuzi, a Sumerian King deified post mortem). His initial was the mystic Tau, represented by the "T" shape and the dungy idol mentioned in the Bible that the Israelite women used in false worship, even carving it in the walls of the temple. (Ezekiel 8:1-14)

The Roman cross had a variety of shapes, from a simple pole to a cross shape or X shape. It was a phallic symbol. A representation of the penis worn around the necks of many.
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#27
RE: Wearing a crucifix
(November 27, 2008 at 11:06 am)Daystar Wrote: The Roman cross had a variety of shapes, from a simple pole to a cross shape or X shape. It was a phallic symbol. A representation of the penis worn around the necks of many.

OK so maybe I'm just subconsciously saying, "C'mon girls, I got a big dick!"? I'm sure my wife would be pleased about that Cool

Kyu
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#28
RE: Wearing a crucifix
(November 26, 2008 at 6:16 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: I've got a Darwin Fish too but my wife won't let me be that "ansty" (she's always too bothered about what others think IMO) so it's stuck to the bottom of my monitor at home Smile

Ah, a "responsible" spouse. I've got me one of those. I can have the FSM on the back of my vehicle, because my mother-in-law doesn't know what it means. But I just can't seem to get the Darwin fish screwing the JEHOVAH fish onto my car without my husband refusing to take my car places. Perhaps it's a bit of a leftover from my angsty religion-hating years.

Also, because I'm fashion illiterate... why is wearing a cross a "fashion statement". What statement is one making, by wearing a cross?
Merrie

My candle burns at both ends
It will not last the night;
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends -
It gives a lovely light.
Edna St. Vincent Millay, "A Few Figs from Thistles", 1920
US poet (1892 - 1950)
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#29
RE: Wearing a crucifix
I read off a comic somewhere that the best way to infuriate someone wearing a cross is to say...

"sooooo, What does the T stand for?"

I did it to this guy in the other class.
He got so pissed off at me. xD
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#30
RE: Wearing a crucifix
(December 1, 2008 at 4:48 pm)MerrieMelodyxx Wrote: Ah, a "responsible" spouse. I've got me one of those. I can have the FSM on the back of my vehicle, because my mother-in-law doesn't know what it means. But I just can't seem to get the Darwin fish screwing the JEHOVAH fish onto my car without my husband refusing to take my car places. Perhaps it's a bit of a leftover from my angsty religion-hating years.

LOL ... probably Smile

(December 1, 2008 at 4:48 pm)MerrieMelodyxx Wrote: Also, because I'm fashion illiterate... why is wearing a cross a "fashion statement". What statement is one making, by wearing a cross?

Well for me fashion was always a way of making a statement, for most of my younger (now fairly distant) years it was "I'm an individual" (just like a million others, LOL) as well as saying I can dress better than *you* (people who weren't as fashionable) and still do it on a budget so better than *them* (the vapid "in-crowd" whose sole preoccupation seemed to be doing the right thing, saying the right-thing and looking the right way whilst doing them. As a proud member of what we called "the not-s-in-crowd) we could dress-the-dress, walk,-the-walk & talk-the-talk but spent most of our time taking the piss outta them. Ah! Those were the days, happy memories, sex, drugs and rock 'n roll (though not enough sex and it was punk rather than rock) and the wimin were just plain awesome.

Now I'm 50 plus and to some degree I am still sticking one finger up to all that's supposedly good and wholesome (at least those things that are accepted as such without good reason), an upside-down cross does tend to "challenge" some people a little and it fits in well with my current mode of dress which is black, lots of leather and somewhat intimidating (in a don't f*** with me kinda sense).

In a sense it kinda makes that same, "I'm a rebel" statement I've always made.

Kyu
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