God exists^^

[Zen Badger]

I like this guy,

He's funny.(well he makes me laugh)

[Tiberius]

I don't. His posts are both messy and filled with complete nonsense.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

@aufis

you don't believe in God because you believe that God didn't exist.

No,not at all.l I have never said any such thing,nor have most atheists on this forum. I assert only " I do not believe" The reason I don't believe is lack of evidence. By that I mean there is no evidence to prove the existence of god(s).

From reading your posts it seems you have failed to grasp the concept of 'evidence'. Alleged revealed truths such as contained in say The Torah ,The Gospels and the Qur'an are not evidence, they are myths used as the basis of religious beliefs. To claim such as evidence is one of the more common logical fallacies of apologists. It's called "argument from authority" and will be rejected out of hand here.

So far all you've done is to make yourself seem willfully ignorant and incapable of independent thought.

Please either provide evidence within the commonly accepted meaning of the word or go away. I'm to sorry to have to tell this; your tired old rants are really tedious. Please at least try to develop some indication of wit,there's a good chap.


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For your information:

Evidence in its broadest sense includes everything that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth of an assertion. Giving or procuring evidence is the process of using those things that are either (a) presumed to be true, or (b) were themselves proven via evidence, to demonstrate an assertion's truth. Evidence is the currency by which one fulfills the burden of proof.

Many issues surround evidence, making it the subject of much discussion and disagreement. In addition to its subtlety, evidence plays an important role in many academic disciplines, including science and law, adding to the discourse surrounding it.

An important distinction in the field of evidence is that between circumstantial evidence and direct evidence, or evidence that suggests truth as opposed to evidence that directly proves truth. Many have seen this line to be less-than-clear and significant arguments have arisen over the difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence

Appeal to authority is a fallacy of defective induction, where it is argued that a statement is correct because the statement is made by a person or source that is commonly regarded as authoritative. The most general structure of this argument is:

Source A says that p is true.
Source A is authoritative.
Therefore, p is true.

This is a fallacy because the truth or falsity of the claim is not necessarily related to the personal qualities of the claimant, and because the premises can be true, and the conclusion false (an authoritative claim can turn out to be false). It is also known as argumentum ad verecundiam (Latin: argument to respect) or ipse dixit (Latin: he himself said it). [1]

On the other hand, arguments from authority are an important part of informal logic. Since we cannot have expert knowledge of many subjects, we often rely on the judgments of those who do. There is no fallacy involved in simply arguing that the assertion made by an authority is true. The fallacy only arises when it is claimed or implied that the authority is infallible in principle and can hence be exempted from criticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

[tavarish]

Flash in the pan Christian comes on and says we are evidence for an undefined God's existence because the Bible says so.

I'm seriously getting tired of this. It's like no one takes the time to read what has already been beaten to death, and they post like it's some open and shut case, and most likely, it was not what convinced them.

What I propose is for theists to say what converted them personally, instead of regurgitating talking points from evangelists. Then we can make a distinction on whether or not what converted them was actually reasonable or not, and go from there with that knowledge.

[fr0d0]

Indeed Tav. I tend to agree.

& 100+ kudos to Leo for stepping up to the job.

[Autumnlicious]

The first thing I thought when I saw the thread title was "What?" as it reminded me of the "Everything exists" thread.

Second was, "Oh crap, not again."