Quote:1. Everyone (including you) failed to give a single legitimate evidence that can show Mr X has recorded Modern Scientific facts in 7th century Quran.
2. What everyone doing is speculating and making guestimates.
3. Because no one of you (atheists and agnostics) wants to believe in the existence of God, therefore some of you have even gone to a level of absurdity. Some of you are now advocating such irrational ideas as “Big Bang,” “Expanding Universe,” and “Currents in depth of deep oceans” are commonly observable phenomena therefore, no one has ever think of recording them.
4. I have shown you that verses and chapters in Quran are arranged in miraculous mathematical order. If you want, I can give you more examples.
5. On top of that, you have heard what eminent scientists (who are not Muslims) stated about Quran.
6. Furthermore, well-educated people in the west are coming to Islam in large numbers. Do not think they are 7th century donkeys?
All that is the power of Miraculous Quran.
Ponder over these facts and at least acknowledge the truth like Keith Moore and other scientists have done.
You're asking people on here to find out what ancient people thought about vague topics and if we can't find records that means that supernatural miracles happened.
If something is easily experienced and readily observable, such a halocline or extreme burn, then it doesn't matter if people on this forum can't find some vague ancient document about burns or a halocline.
In the real world, a court of law or situations like that, if it's been properly deduced that someone could have either looked out of the window and seen something or miraculously been told something, then they looked out the window, the miraculous option isn't entertained and rightly so, because miracles are nonsense.
Muhammad didn't live in a cave with his head down a hole his entire life, he was a merchant involved in trade between the Indian ocean and the Mediterranean sea so it means absolutely nothing to say he didn't know about oceans or the sea. He was 40 at the time of writing the quran and had made a living trading between a sea and an ocean.
I don't think anyone has said that the big bang is easily observable, you're just wording it that way in an attempt to make the people you're arguing with sound irrational, from what I've seen most people are saying the quran doesn't mention the big bang to begin with.
Which it doesn't because the quran talks about the heavens and earth being clove apart, if you think heavens means universe then it's still incorrect because the earth is a part of the universe, the earth isn't clove asunder from the universe.
Many of the scientists used to demonstate quranic miracles have taken back what they said and admitted they were manipulated. Many of these videos can be seen on youtube by a man called the rationalizer.
Kieth moore is neither Muslim nor is he still preaching about the quran. From what I've read he's ashamed in his involvement in the quran.
The babble you're talking about is no different than the ancient aliens TV shows, if some historical records are missing or a civilization seems to have build a pyramid quite fast, either prove how they did it or else aliens exist.
But with you it's either find some historical ancient documents on a vague topic or else Muhammad definitely predicted scientific facts and wrote them in a form of vague poetry.
