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Immolation, martyrdom and absurdity.
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RE: Immolation, martyrdom and absurdity.
Terry Pratchett and the Troubles would be a great name for a 60s skiffle band.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Immolation, martyrdom and absurdity.
(June 23, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:
(June 23, 2015 at 12:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote: ... I got called a bigot. This is the same false slur when people criticize Islam. You cant even point to former believers of that religion whom agree with you. You cant even point out that you(meaning many, like me) were former believers.


It would depend on the nature of the criticism.  Some criticisms of particular religions are simply pure bigotry.  Some aren't.  It all depends on the nature of the particular criticism under consideration.  You seem confused on this point.  (So, too, are some "liberals," who imagine all religious criticism is bigotry.)


(June 23, 2015 at 12:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote: But these same people who ignorantly romanticize his needless death would rightfully say the following pastor's suicide if he goes through with that threat, is a religiously motivated suicide?

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/06/19/tex...aign=Texas

The link above talks about a pastor who has threatened to light himself on fire if gay marriage is accepted. ...

Rick Scarborough, the pastor who says he will kill himself if gay marriage is accepted, would be doing the world a favor if he killed himself.  My guess is, he is a lying hypocritical piece of shit who will chicken out.  Anyone want to make a bet on this?

I don't want anyone missing my point between the two stories. Why is the first pastor deemed merely having mental illness, where as the second guy is a religious bigot? I am not talking about bravery here. Both were/are motivated by religion regardless of intent of compassion or cruelty. Both consider what they were/are doing to be what god wanted. The point is to demonstrate that our evolutionary actions and sense of morality are NOT coming from a holy book, but our behaviors are evolutionary.
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