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thoughts on morality
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Hmm, maybe we should get a "morality" section in the forum... or at least a sticky
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Not sure why the citation didn't copy over but most know this is C.S. Lewis. I never claimed it to be my own and asked for thoughts and opinions on it. I don't find ad hominum attacks against the author to be rebuttals. But again did not ask for rebuttals, just thoughts and opinions.
Everything on this forum has been done to death and while necroposting is against the rules, if I just wanted to read, I would (and have) but I want to engage together. Rob, thanks for the video I will check it out. 
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
 (July 29, 2015 at 9:08 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Not sure why the citation didn't copy over but most know this is C.S. Lewis. Taking a leap and speaking for others here, but, no, most don't recognize C.S. Lewis quotes off hand. And whether or not you intended to leave out the citation is irrelevant. I don't actually think you were trying to represent CS Lewis' words as your own. The quotation marks clued me in. However, you are responsible for the content of your posts, and let's just say maybe you give your post a once over to make sure it is formatted correctly.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
PM me your email address to join the Slack chat! I'll give you a taco(or five) if you join! --->There's an app and everything!<--- (July 29, 2015 at 9:43 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:(July 29, 2015 at 9:08 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Not sure why the citation didn't copy over but most know this is C.S. Lewis. Certainly will! Thanks
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
No problem kingpin
Steve is an excellent critical thinker, and I'd be surprised if his analysis isn't at least interesting to you, if not persuasive. I feel he pretty much nails it constantly and does so in an entertaining way. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum  (July 29, 2015 at 9:08 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Not sure why the citation didn't copy over but most know this is C.S. Lewis. I never claimed it to be my own and asked for thoughts and opinions on it. I don't find ad hominum attacks against the author to be rebuttals. But again did not ask for rebuttals, just thoughts and opinions. And yet you're ignoring the two or three legitimate responses to what you posted, in favor of pretending that the one ad hominem attack- which was itself nestled at the bottom of a real response- is all there is. Just like in the last thread you made, you're just ignoring everyone who actually responds to you.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!  (July 29, 2015 at 9:08 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Not sure why the citation didn't copy over but most know this is C.S. Lewis. I never claimed it to be my own When you post something without quotation marks and do not say that it is from someone else, you are implicitly stating it is yours. Like this sentence, by not putting quotation marks around it, and by not attributing it to someone else, it is implicit that this is my sentence and not someone else's. You either already know that fact, or you are pretty clueless about writing generally. If you already know it, then it means you are trying to weasel out of responsibility for having done what you have done, which would make you an asshole. But if you don't already know it, you need to learn it to keep you from having problems in the future. It is not only dishonest, it is illegal in many jurisdictions as well. For quotes, always use some method of indicating it is a quotation, and always give the correct attribution for it. (July 29, 2015 at 9:08 am)lkingpinl Wrote: and asked for thoughts and opinions on it. I don't find ad hominum attacks against the author to be rebuttals. But again did not ask for rebuttals, just thoughts and opinions. I gave you a real response, yet you say nothing about that and complain about my comments about C.S. Lewis being an idiot. That, of course, was not an argumentum ad hominem, for two reasons. First, it was not presented as an argument at all. In order for something to be a fallacious argument, it must be an argument. Second, it was inferred from the argument presented above it. When someone writes stupid things, and one shows that they are stupid things, concluding that the person was being stupid who wrote those stupid things is drawing a proper conclusion. If you can't distinguish between such things and an argumentum ad hominem, you need to study what an argumentum ad hominem is. Here are a couple of links to articles that help explain this fact, that not all insults are examples of argumentum ad hominem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_hominem Indeed, calling my statement an argumentum ad hominem is itself committing a fallacy known as "false equivalence": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence Just because there is an insult in common with examples of the fallacy, that does not mean that my comment is equivalent to the fallacy. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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