Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.

[abaris]

How many years have to pass before we are allowed to discuss jews in the same light as any other religious group without having to step in the shitbag of  WWII's Holocaust and Hitler?

60ys? 160ys?

Yet we're not talking about religion. We're talking about the premise of jews being a race and having too much influence. Religion doesn't factor in what OP says. And that's exactly the good old antisemitic argument used some 80 years ago.

Which, given that there are about 13 million jews in this whole wide world, I find rather hilarious. Or pukeworthy for that matter. And I'm certainly not a friend of Netanjahu or current Israeli politics.

[downbeatplumb]

 Similar to the argument of a certain German Corporal?

How many years have to pass before we are allowed to discuss jews in the same light as any other religious group without having to step in the shitbag of  WWII's Holocaust and Hitler?

60ys? 160ys?

People of all stripes do things that seem shady, to also mention that they are jews and imply they are doing it to aid the cause of "jewry" does have a nineteen thirties ring about it when these things aren't inspired by religious texts.

[Shinagami]

 Similar to the argument of a certain German Corporal?

How many years have to pass before we are allowed to discuss jews in the same light as any other religious group without having to step in the shitbag of  WWII's Holocaust and Hitler?

60ys? 160ys?

That's been their get out card for ages. Just cry "antisemitism!" a made up word used to shut people up, just like "islamophobia". Everyone from Daniel Barenboim to Jimmy Carter to Stephen Hawking have been accused of "antisemitism" for speaking honestly about Israel.  So hey, I'm at least in good company.

[Kingpin]

So shin, are you patently against all people who identify as Jewish or do you select those whose actions you don't approve of and post hoc apply their Jewish label to it?

[Minimalist]

Let's not be naive about the power of the Israel lobby in Washington, people.

Pat Buchanan once famously referred to the US Congress as "the Israeli occupied zone."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/power...to-israel/

Lawmakers take well-timed Israel trip paid for by AIPAC charitable arm

[Shinagami]

So shin, are you patently against all people who identify as Jewish or do you select those whose actions you don't approve of and post hoc apply their Jewish label to it?

I'm against the entire religion, yes, but no I'm not against all Jews in the same way. Anyone who practices their religion privately and doesn't harm others is alright by me. And I didn't apply a Jewish label to Schumer. He is Jewish and not incidentally so. He made this decision because he's Jewish. Who are we kidding? I'm sorry the Holocaust happened. It was inexcusable. But it was also 70 years ago. Jews in the modern world, especially the US, are not some disenfranchised minority anymore. They should be open to be criticized just as any other group would be.

[Brakeman]

How many years have to pass before we are allowed to discuss jews in the same light as any other religious group without having to step in the shitbag of  WWII's Holocaust and Hitler?

60ys? 160ys?

Yet we're not talking about religion. We're talking about the premise of jews being a race and having too much influence. Religion doesn't factor in what OP says. And that's exactly the good old antisemitic argument used some 80 years ago.

If you are taking about jews you are talking about religion, There is no "race" of jews, that is just what their religious bullshit book says, it isn't reality.  Let's stick to reality here.

The op uses the word "tribe" which could mean an he is seeing jews as something other than religious nuts. That's irritating. I hope it was just a joke.
Pogroms and the holocaust were religious conflicts between jealous religions. They're not from sane people judging individuals from their true character.

If you take religion out of a jew, you don't have a jew, just an asshole that supports an unfair theocracy.

[noahide]

Let's not be naive about the power of the Israel lobby in Washington, people.

Saudi lobby is pretty strong too

[abaris]

So hey, I'm at least in good company.

No, you aren't. There's a difference between critizising Israel and it's policy and the old standard drivel of the jews having too much power. If one is called antisemitic for doing the former, it's moronic. If the latter is used, it's justified. That's also the finer point of Islamophobia, since it's on the same lines.

So you are in the company of something that went out of fashion 70 years ago and certainly not Jimmy Carter.

[Shinagami]

So those of us concerned over the Jewish lobby's disproportionate influence over our government should just shut up and take it because Nazis. Oy gevalt!