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Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
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RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
(August 8, 2015 at 8:20 am)Brakeman Wrote:
(August 8, 2015 at 4:10 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:  Similar to the argument of a certain German Corporal?

How many years have to pass before we are allowed to discuss jews in the same light as any other religious group without having to step in the shitbag of  WWII's Holocaust and Hitler?

60ys? 160ys?
People are only pissed off at Hitler because he was a white man who killed white people instead of non-whites.  They aren't really upset about the war itself since whites have always fought each other but generally kept the killing to the military targets.  If Hitler had been killing blacks in Africa it wouldn't have been a big thing at all.  Hell, the US routinely burned people alive without a second thought.   But those victims were Japanese so it was OK.
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#22
RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
(August 8, 2015 at 8:25 am)abaris Wrote:
(August 8, 2015 at 8:20 am)Brakeman Wrote: How many years have to pass before we are allowed to discuss jews in the same light as any other religious group without having to step in the shitbag of  WWII's Holocaust and Hitler?

60ys? 160ys?

Yet we're not talking about religion. We're talking about the premise of jews being a race and having too much influence. Religion doesn't factor in what OP says. And that's exactly the good old antisemitic argument used some 80 years ago.

Which, given that there are about 13 million jews in this whole wide world, I find rather hilarious. Or pukeworthy for that matter. And I'm certainly not a friend of Netanjahu or current Israeli politics.
Well, you have to be a Jew or a Catholic to get on the Supreme Court.  Who do you think will fill the next vacancy?
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#23
RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
(August 8, 2015 at 4:48 am)abaris Wrote:
(August 7, 2015 at 11:50 pm)Shinagami Wrote: They're 2 percent of the population and 20 percent of Congress, and they run most of the banks that wrecked the country, they've gotten us into 2 wars in 10 years and are just itching to get us into a third. No, I don't begrudge them representation but I am going to speak for the other 98% who are tired of America being Israel's bitch. You don't think that's the case? Watch Congress fawning over Netanyahu and then get back to me.

You sure don't have any original ideas. That's exactly the Nazi argument on Germany some 80 years ago. To the letter.

Do I think, the guy's a douche? Yes. Do I think he's been bought by some lobby? Yes. Does it have to do with him being jewish? Possibly. But he's not the only one. There are a lot of good repub christians who gave Netanjahu standing ovations at Congress and they are as opposed to the peace deal as this guy is.

And what about the rest of the jews in Conngress? Do they all hold the same position? Have you checked on their individual records? What's that about 2 wars? Last time I checked neither Bush nor Cheney are jewish.

Show me a Jew in Congress who's spoken out for the murdered children of Palestine and I'll take back every word.
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RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
(August 9, 2015 at 2:46 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(August 8, 2015 at 8:20 am)Brakeman Wrote: How many years have to pass before we are allowed to discuss jews in the same light as any other religious group without having to step in the shitbag of  WWII's Holocaust and Hitler?

60ys? 160ys?
People are only pissed off at Hitler because he was a white man who killed white people instead of non-whites.  They aren't really upset about the war itself since whites have always fought each other but generally kept the killing to the military targets.  If Hitler had been killing blacks in Africa it wouldn't have been a big thing at all.  Hell, the US routinely burned people alive without a second thought.   But those victims were Japanese so it was OK.

Leopold of Belgium did kill well over 6 million black Africans so why isn't he the model for all evil? Even Churchill committed chemical war crimes against the Kurds and allowed 4 million people in Bengal to starve to death. But let's keep pretending Jewnicorns have been the only victims.  Angel
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RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
(August 23, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Shinagami Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 2:46 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: People are only pissed off at Hitler because he was a white man who killed white people instead of non-whites.  They aren't really upset about the war itself since whites have always fought each other but generally kept the killing to the military targets.  If Hitler had been killing blacks in Africa it wouldn't have been a big thing at all.  Hell, the US routinely burned people alive without a second thought.   But those victims were Japanese so it was OK.

Leopold of Belgium did kill well over 6 million black Africans so why isn't he the model for all evil? Even Churchill committed chemical war crimes against the Kurds and allowed 4 million people in Bengal to starve to death. But let's keep pretending Jewnicorns have been the only victims.  Angel

No one is saying that Jews have been the only victims. What is being said is that your stereotype is shopworn from overuse, and it's also been pointed out some others who've used the same tropes.

I'm no apologist for Israel; they have certainly committed war crimes against Palestinian civilians, and I myself think that America should stop the $3 billion or so per annum that we grant, not loan, them, at least until they start playing our tune and work towards a meaningful rapprochement with the Palestinians as we wish. But at the same time, shit like "Jews controlled the banks which caused our 08 collapse"is almost certainly selective vision, given that that collapes was fueled more by Americans taking out loans they were unable to support.

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RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
Okay, Jews controlled MANY of the banks that led to the 2008 financial collapse. Better? They still control an awful lot though, considering they're 2% of the population.
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#27
RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
Well, gosh, that must mean that their Jewry was the cause.

In other words, you should google this term, post hoc ergo propter hoc.

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RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
(August 23, 2015 at 9:19 pm)Shinagami Wrote: Okay, Jews controlled MANY of the banks that led to the 2008 financial collapse. Better? They still control an awful lot though, considering they're 2% of the population.

No, not better.

This statement is based on what source exactly?
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RE: Schumer sides with his tribe over his country.
Isn't that a strange way to conceptualize the 08 crash, the notion that a small group of people were "in control", regardless of who that group was? We crashed because it turned out that the smart, capable people in control of our financial industry were, in point of fact...neither smart, capable -nor- in control.  Didn't have much to do with people taking out loans they couldn't afford either, far as I know (though that's a great way to shift the blame and I'm sure that a faction of those involved would very much like for people to believe it to be so).  Say it with me......"exotic financial instruments". As already mentioned.....I'm not sure what that has to do with teh jooz, or why it would be useful to pin it on them?
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(August 9, 2015 at 10:58 pm)Shinagami Wrote: Show me a Jew in Congress who's spoken out for the murdered children of Palestine and I'll take back every word.

I can't quite do that as I'm not up on the US situation but in the UK, more Jews are opposed to US political involvement in Israel than are for it and Jewish politicians have spoken out against it (e.g. Ed Milliband - the Jewish Times labelled him as 'pro-Palestine'). So the issue isn't one of Jewry, it's one of local politics.
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