Trump?

[Minimalist]

How many wars has he started?  Surely you understand the difference between starting a war and ending one.  Do I wish he'd ended them faster?  Yes.  But I'll settle.... especially as it looks like Afghanistan will go right down the shitter too.

He has had how long to end all these wars? Give me a break.

He withdrew from Iraq and the republicunt shitstains haven't stopped whining about it since.  "Oh, if only we were still there pissing away a fortune and watching our own men get their balls blown off by those ungrateful barbarians...things would be so much BETTER."

Give it up, man.  The only honest republicunt candidate is Lindsey Graham who promises lots of wars so you guys can thump your chests and say how fucking "great" we are.

We need less greatness a lot more common sense.

[KUSA]

You just don't get it do you? Any democrat will do the same thing. Obama is quite guilty of war mongering.

Not nearly so guilty as Bush. This is a false equivalence.

Did I say he was equally guilty as Bush? Bush was a fuck stick.

[KUSA]

Being forced to share with others is not acceptable to me.

And yet you are sharing, provided you're paying taxes. The only question is, what these taxes are used for. In fact, you can't help paying taxes, since even if you manage to evade income, you're still paying for everything you buy.

You didn't pay attention to my full post. Of course I pay taxes and I don't have a problem with it to support basic government structure.

[KUSA]

And when / if you lose the ability to earn any more fruit?

Savings, retirement plans, family.

Do you take out fire or car insurance?

Private insurance.

Everyone in society benefits if people can find the jobs they are best suited for which maximises their potential to contribute rather than take the first thing they are offered because they have no other choice. Germany's generous welfare system demonstrate this.

I had to take shit jobs until I worked my way into a good job.

What if you were never given the chance to get a job because of discrimination? All your potential is lost to society and this means that everyone in the society is poorer as a result.

Discrimination? I'd adapt and overcome.

What you are effectively saying is that you're alright Jack and you don't care about anyone else.

I pay my light bill, I shouldn't have to pay for yours too.

That is until society changes and you are no longer alright.

I've overcome obstacles all my life. I'm sure I'll have more.

And let's not forget that in a truly capitalistic society your costs will skyrocket. You may hate having to pay taxes if you own a shop, but those taxes pay for the emergency services. Without those you would need to pay for your own staff to protect your premises and would have no way of stopping a much larger organised criminal force from overwhelming your security guards. You would also have to pay the fire brigade. Everyone benefits from everyone paying taxes for these necessities because of the economies of scale.

I support paying taxes for these items. As I originally stated, a society must have a certain amount of socialism.

[TheRealJoeFish]

What if you were never given the chance to get a job because of discrimination? All your potential is lost to society and this means that everyone in the society is poorer as a result.

Discrimination? I'd adapt and overcome.

Yeah, ok. I assume that the fact some people don't overcome discrimination is because they're not special like you?

[Minimalist]

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/trump-br...his-stage/

Trump brawls with Rand Paul to open GOP debate: He shouldn’t even be on this stage

Sort of reminds me of two assholes farting at each other!

[KUSA]

Discrimination? I'd adapt and overcome.

Yeah, ok. I assume that the fact some people don't overcome discrimination is because they're not special like you?

No it's because they are a dumbass. There are many and I mean many people that belong to discriminated groups that are much more successful than myself.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Not nearly so guilty as Bush. This is a false equivalence.

Did I say he was equally guilty as Bush? Bush was a fuck stick.

You said, "Any Democrat would do the same thing," which is clearly an attempt at equivalence. One Democrat, LBJ, did the same thing, and he had the decency to not stand for reelection -- and that was almost half-a-century ago. If that's all you've got, well, sorry, that dog ain't hunting.

Bush the second deliberately broke a country for no good reason. Trying to squeeze Obama into your point about that only reveals your own biases.

[KUSA]

Did I say he was equally guilty as Bush? Bush was a fuck stick.

You said, "Any Democrat would do the same thing," which is clearly an attempt at equivalence. One Democrat, LBJ, did the same thing, and he had the decency to not stand for reelection -- and that was almost half-a-century ago. If that's all you've got, well, sorry, that dog ain't hunting.

Bush the second deliberately broke a country for no good reason. Trying to squeeze Obama into your point about that only reveals your own biases.

I was comparing him to Trump not Bush.

[Thumpalumpacus]

You said, "Any Democrat would do the same thing,"  which is clearly an attempt at equivalence. One Democrat, LBJ, did the same thing, and he had the decency to not stand for reelection -- and that was almost half-a-century ago. If that's all you've got, well, sorry, that dog ain't hunting.

Bush the second deliberately broke a country for no good reason. Trying to squeeze Obama into your point about that only reveals your own biases.

I was comparing him to Trump not Bush.

No, you weren't:

Our last two presidents proved that.

You just don't get it do you? Any democrat will do the same thing. Obama is quite guilty of war mongering.

You were drawing a false equivalence. Own your error.