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Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
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 (October 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(October 19, 2015 at 4:27 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: I see what you did there.I stopped at question number two. This test seems designed to point out the contradictions in the Bible. We learned in Sunday school that Simon carried Jesus' cross, but this test points to a verse that contradicts that. Couldn't have done a better job myself. Impossible! There are no contradictions in the bible!  (October 18, 2015 at 10:03 pm)Jenny A Wrote:(October 18, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Spooky Wrote: Odd. I've had exactly the opposite experience here. Most of the Atheists I've met are former theists. As it happens my original brand of crazy was lutheran as well. The wife calls them "watered down catholics" 
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
  (October 19, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(October 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I stopped at question number two. This test seems designed to point out the contradictions in the Bible. We learned in Sunday school that Simon carried Jesus' cross, but this test points to a verse that contradicts that. Couldn't have done a better job myself. Except the inconvenient ones...
Dying to live, living to die.
 (October 19, 2015 at 3:54 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Maybe he's right. Or at least about me. I took this quiz about the bible, and got a 0 on it. =/ The quiz is absolutely brilliant. There is no way to get any score other than 0, no matter how well you know your Bible. It's too bad that most folks will find it frustrating, instead of actually testing the test . . . answering one way for the first answers, and then the opposite.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
 (October 19, 2015 at 6:45 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(October 19, 2015 at 3:54 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Maybe he's right. Or at least about me. I took this quiz about the bible, and got a 0 on it. =/ It is brilliant in that every question has contradictory answers depending on which Bible verse you hang your hat on.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
 (October 19, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(October 19, 2015 at 5:55 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I stopped at question number two. This test seems designed to point out the contradictions in the Bible. We learned in Sunday school that Simon carried Jesus' cross, but this test points to a verse that contradicts that. Couldn't have done a better job myself. Oh, that's right. Drat.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers. Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. --Voltaire Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
Spooky
(October 18, 2015 at 10:03 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Or like me grew up steeped in religion. Want to know all about Lutheranism? Just ask. As it happens my original brand of crazy was lutheran as well. The wife calls them "watered down catholics" Sort of. Lutherans have a liturgy, but they've eliminated most sacraments (or at least declared them not to be sacraments) and have gotten rid of most church tradition in favor of the bible. Of course they've since merged with and not ordain their clergy, which they didn't do before. Oh and there are at least four different brands of Lutheran. Fun, fun, fun. And yes, unlike the Catholics they are faith only not works and once saved always saved.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
 RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
October 19, 2015 at 7:44 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2015 at 8:11 pm by Simon Moon.)
(October 18, 2015 at 9:14 pm)Delicate Wrote: I suppose any theist who has read this part of the forum has to chuckle at how terrible atheist critiques of theism are. I'm a little late to this thread, so excuse me if someone else made these points. First of all, in polls, it turns out that atheists are more knowledgeable of theism than many theists. Like this one I am constantly shocked when debating Christians, that don't know about Yahweh condoning slavery, killing women who are not virgins on their wedding night, sending 42 bears to slaughter some youths for taunting a bald prophet, and many more ridiculous (and I should add, immoral) verses. But here's the thing, until the existence of a god is demonstrated, the truthfulness and accuracy of any of the 1000's of various religions, is a nonstarter. There is not a single religious text that can get you to, 'therefore god exists'. Here's a question for you. Is it only a 'troubling realization' to you when atheists are uninformed about your religion, or all the 1000's of others, too? How informed are you, about Hinduism say, compared to the average atheist? You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  (October 19, 2015 at 7:29 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Spooky And the Lutherans have backed off of Luther himself to a degree, so it's possible Martin Luther would no longer be a Lutheran today if he 'stuck to his guns' about everything he went on about back in the day. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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