French Terror Attacks, scores dead

[Minimalist]

Apparently, some Turks are not so upset with ISIS, either.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/world/pari...index.html

Moment of silence for Paris victims doesn't pass quietly at soccer game

It's hard to hear what's happening in the video, but according to reports from Reuters and CBS, some fans of Turkey's team booed, hissed and chanted phrases such as "Allahu akbar" (which was said by the terrorists during the attacks and earlier this year during the attack on Charlie Hebdo in Paris).

Social media was quick to condemn the fans.

Must be some more of those "moderates."

[StuW]

I have mixed views on this, the traditional response to this type situation is to "boo" the atrocity so was this what they were doing?

[Minimalist]

I think the traditional response is to remain SILENT during a moment of silence.

Plus, the allah ahkbar shit kind of gives it away.

[Thumpalumpacus]

It would mean that you are an accomplice  to whatever crimes I commit using the guns and money.  

The fact is that dummies like John McCain are responsible for creating ISIS by giving it arms and money.  He should be tried and convicted as a terrorist. And the same applies to everyone else who is aiding and abetting the various terrorist groups in the Middle East.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331

[Cyberman]

ISIS are getting what they want - fucked by 72 virgins:

[abaris]

Soccer Hooligans staying silent or showing respect?

Man, you're living on a different planet.

It never happened that black or jewish players were vocally insulted and greeted with "Heil Hitler".

[WinterHold]

I said dry your eyes because of your offence at my question, I asked it because I didn't know and for no other reason.  If you hadn't noticed, if I want to offend, I'll go straight out and do it, hence my "cretin" comment, if I ask a question, it's because i don't know the answer.

Subtlety has never been a strong point of mine.

I personally think not; I personally think you asked because :

1-I'm a Muslim
2-I allowed my mind to extend and question the forces that cause "real" wars in the world; you know, forces that invade countries like Iraq & Libya, open military bases in every possible country, forces that use drones to bomb 24/7.

And that's okay. They programmed you to be like that; and you just followed. See the hate crimes against Muslims (and hate crimes in general); most of them start like that. By a person who "didn't understand".

It's not about being subtle, but it's about logic. I'm questioning your "employer" who sent you to Iraq for a lie (weren't you in the army and served in Iraq ?). The W.M.Ds weren't found and that's a fact. All those people dead, for a lie. So, I have every reason to question the France incident. 

I'm not defending ISIS by that, or "sympathizing" with terrorism,  but I learned from Iraq's invasion that MSM-Official reports-eye witnesses can actually be orchestrated to produce a lie (WMD anyone ?). And to be truthful ? your past employer proved a brutality in war, that matches ISIS ; see the drone attacks or pictures of "Abu Ghuraib".

I just try to look through those poor lives wasted, to see the truth. Because obviously; the lies of your previous employer aren't that convincing anymore (to me at least).

[Edwardo Piet]

Hating Islam is different to hating muslims though my friend. I don't hate muslims, I don't hate anybody, but I hate plenty of ideologies, Islam being one of them.

[WinterHold]

Hating the ideology is between you and yourself; hating others is something between you and them, the latter is what causes disasters.

People will pay hate with hate; and there the spark hits on the fuel, boom, everybody burns.

[Edwardo Piet]

@ Atlas

I've never been a hateful person, but as Anti-Islam as Sam Harris may be... so I doubt you're a fan of him! - he's helped me hate people even less.

Quotes like this:

If we cannot assign blame to the workings of the universe, how can evil people be held responsible for their actions? In the deepest sense, it seems, they can’t be. But in a practical sense, they must be. I see no contradiction in this. In fact, I think that keeping the deep causes of human behavior in view would only improve our practical response to evil. The feeling that people are deeply responsible for who they are does nothing but produce moral illusions and psychological suffering.

From this article:

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/life-...-free-will