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Is personal identity really just mind?

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Is personal identity really just mind?
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 2:55 am
And a big welcome Crystal.
Please jump on to the introductions thread and formally introduce yourself!
You don't have of course, but there's waffles for you if you do! Hehe

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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 2:57 am
Irrational, being a woman stuck in a man's body is a simple genetic anomaly.
Nothing to do with crazy.... Next you'll tell us all gays are the work of the devil...!

I think you're smarter than that....
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 3:40 am
(January 31, 2016 at 2:57 am)ignoramus Wrote: Irrational,  being a woman stuck in a man's body is a simple genetic anomaly.
Nothing to do with crazy.... Next you'll tell us all gays are the work of the devil...!

I think you're smarter than that....

Is this some logical fallacy I'm seeing here in your post?
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 6:48 am
Yep. The gay thing was a silly joke. Sorry.
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
January 31, 2016 at 9:45 am (This post was last modified: January 31, 2016 at 9:46 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 31, 2016 at 2:01 am)CrystalKey Wrote: Hey, I'm new here. For me, I feel/think that "personal identity" is part genetics and partly your own personal journey through life.

I think that a statement like that or functionally identical to it is the point of common ground between most of us.  It's general enough to cast a wide net, lol. Most people don't get hung up on that, but on the question of how it's achieved or why it works, or even exists at all.

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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
February 1, 2016 at 4:10 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 9:49 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The "bridge" problem is this: if their are 2 unique substances, then how do they interact?
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Let's say I have a brain and a mind, and they are unique.  How does the brain let the mind know what's happening, and how does the mind influence the brain?  There needs to be a mediating mechanism:  substance "brainmind."  But what would a bridge between 2 so totally different substances consist of?  The soul?  Nah. . . in what way would that have roots in either the mind OR the body ?

Nope.  The dualist position requires God, He Who Make Possible What Is Impossible.  Now things are easy:

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I have recently explained why this is a straw man to you. Why do you persist? Was something unclear about hylomorphic union?
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February 1, 2016 at 4:27 pm
(January 30, 2016 at 10:07 am)ChadWooters Wrote: There are many kinds of dualists.

There are also many kinds of clods who post selfies showing quasi-retarded, sneering facial expressions.
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
February 1, 2016 at 4:36 pm
(February 1, 2016 at 4:10 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(January 30, 2016 at 9:49 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The "bridge" problem is this: if their are 2 unique substances, then how do they interact?
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Let's say I have a brain and a mind, and they are unique.  How does the brain let the mind know what's happening, and how does the mind influence the brain?  There needs to be a mediating mechanism:  substance "brainmind."  But what would a bridge between 2 so totally different substances consist of?  The soul?  Nah. . . in what way would that have roots in either the mind OR the body ?

Nope.  The dualist position requires God, He Who Make Possible What Is Impossible.  Now things are easy:

[Image: UnderpantsGnomesPlan.jpg]

I have recently explained why this is a straw man to you. Why do you persist? Was something unclear about hylomorphic union?

What's that hymenmorphic union bit about? Is it somehow related to that ectoplasm, or "slime" which covered Bill Murray like so much jism?

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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
February 1, 2016 at 4:37 pm (This post was last modified: February 1, 2016 at 4:41 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
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RE: Is personal identity really just mind?
February 1, 2016 at 8:34 pm
(February 1, 2016 at 4:10 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Was something unclear about hylomorphic union?
Ummmm. . . yes? Like. . . super unclear.
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