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Magdalene Horrors in Ireland
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RE: Magdalene Horrors in Ireland
(February 26, 2016 at 9:57 pm)abaris Wrote:
(February 26, 2016 at 4:08 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: I deny none of it. I am on your side Undecided .

Ireland was a fucked up soceity for most of the 20th century. I just wonder what all factors at play there were.

If only someone would take you seriously. Wouldn't that be nice?

Do you think  I  support magdalene laundries? really? Undecided

I am a humanist. I do not support things which degrade and demean the human condition..
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RE: Magdalene Horrors in Ireland
(February 27, 2016 at 9:57 am)TrueChristian Wrote: Do you think  I  support magdalene laundries? really? Undecided

I am a humanist. I do not support things which degrade and demean the human condition..

You are whatever you are. To us, you are whatever you want us to believe you are. So, I wouldn't know, since you keep changing your persona like others their underwear. I certainly don't take anything you say as fact.
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RE: Magdalene Horrors in Ireland
(February 27, 2016 at 9:57 am)TrueChristian Wrote:
(February 26, 2016 at 9:57 pm)abaris Wrote: If only someone would take you seriously. Wouldn't that be nice?

Do you think  I  support magdalene laundries? really? Undecided

I am a humanist. I do not support things which degrade and demean the human condition..

From your OWN quote, in your OWN thread, "What's Up With Ireland?":

Quote:From what I have noticed, Ireland has abandoned their Catholic faith to a large degree.

Why is that? Is it because the people of Ireland are so rich now, they feel less of a need to pray to God?

I am not sure what they have against the Catholic faith at all really [Image: undecided.gif] .


(bold, mine)

maybe you're just learning all of this for the first time,
but the Irish people have plenty of reason to now be against their own Catholic church.

Also, earlier in this thread, you said (in Post# 6):

Quote:I think it's apparent why the Church was so dominant in Irleand. People valued/respected it, because it appeared to advocate for the people against English/Protestant exploitation and domination.

(bold, mine)

"appeared" is certainly the operative word in that sentence,
although I'm not sure how aware you are, of it.

The Church was on its own side.


It existed primarily to extort and oppress its own parishioners,
with only the appearance of "helping" them.

Bishops were often hand-in-glove with the very English gentry and industrialists who stripped the poor Catholic Irishman of his lands, rights, and freedoms.

The Church was paid-off, much of the time, in one way or another,
to manipulate the Catholic peasants into greater submission to English/Protestant rule.
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