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Let's talk about... yaweh
#31
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(February 27, 2016 at 10:42 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(February 27, 2016 at 9:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah.... if you don't mind poison in your water, pollution in your air and worms in your meat?

I think you missed the part about needing "more indians."

Private industry will do it better and cheaper!

Bullshit.  Those corporate cocksuckers are the ones poisoning the water, polluting the air and using contaminated meat.  They'd kill you and sell your organs if they thought they could make a buck for their fucking stockholders.
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#32
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(February 28, 2016 at 2:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(February 27, 2016 at 10:42 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Private industry will do it better and cheaper!

Bullshit.  Those corporate cocksuckers are the ones poisoning the water, polluting the air and using contaminated meat.  They'd kill you and sell your organs if they thought they could make a buck for their fucking stockholders.

The best example is PMC's they did questionable things when they were hired as help with the war.
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#33
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
Yeah, Yahweh.  
Amazing that anyone in this day and age could read the old testament and not just be saying "wtf is this shit?" every few minutes.
This morning, we had the story of the burning bush.  You know, the one where God showed Moses the image of a burning bush to get Moses to come over and talk to him . . . and tell Moses that he was chosen to lead the Hebrews out of slavery in Egypt.  Then as Moses approached this bush that was on fire but not being consumed, Yahweh told him to take off his sandals, because he was standing on "holy ground".  (I don't get this it all - those feel were filthy with or without the sandals.)  
    What I also don't get is why a deity who had created the universe - - - or at least the world, and everything on it, and was thought to be all-powerful and all-knowing, would even need to catch the attention of one human with a weird vision, much less somehow make his voice come out of this weird vision.  He could have just SPOKEN.  If he didn't want to show his face, he could have just been a glowing, human-shaped cloud, and talk to Moses.  Heck, he could have chosen a human-like form and showed himself to the entire band of "his people" and spoken to them.  No more graven images or disobedience . . . every single one of them would have seen SOMETHING and would have heard the voice of god.  But no, all of the prophets and priests have to go off ALONE, and then bring back the message.  They bring back goofy stories like bushes that are on fire but don't burn.
   Fire was a holy, magical thing in those days.  Egyptian mythology is full of magical, holy fire. Pentecost has the description of the Holy Ghost appearing as "tongues of fire" above believer's heads.  
   A burning bush.  It would have been a powerful story in 1400 BCE, but now it's just absurd.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#34
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
Cut Him some slack, it takes a bit to make a sun. He just had a nightlight on to make it easier to create.
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#35
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
Yahweh? Noweh!
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#36
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(February 28, 2016 at 3:34 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Yeah, Yahweh.  
Amazing that anyone in this day and age could read the old testament and not just be saying "wtf is this shit?" every few minutes.
This morning, we had the story of the burning bush.  You know, the one where God showed Moses the image of a burning bush to get Moses to come over and talk to him . . . and tell Moses that he was chosen to lead the Hebrews out of slavery in Egypt.  Then as Moses approached this bush that was on fire but not being consumed, Yahweh told him to take off his sandals, because he was standing on "holy ground".  (I don't get this it all - those feel were filthy with or without the sandals.)  
    What I also don't get is why a deity who had created the universe - - - or at least the world, and everything on it, and was thought to be all-powerful and all-knowing, would even need to catch the attention of one human with a weird vision, much less somehow make his voice come out of this weird vision.  He could have just SPOKEN.  If he didn't want to show his face, he could have just been a glowing, human-shaped cloud, and talk to Moses.  Heck, he could have chosen a human-like form and showed himself to the entire band of "his people" and spoken to them.  No more graven images or disobedience . . . every single one of them would have seen SOMETHING and would have heard the voice of god.  But no, all of the prophets and priests have to go off ALONE, and then bring back the message.  They bring back goofy stories like bushes that are on fire but don't burn.
   Fire was a holy, magical thing in those days.  Egyptian mythology is full of magical, holy fire. Pentecost has the description of the Holy Ghost appearing as "tongues of fire" above believer's heads.  
   A burning bush.  It would have been a powerful story in 1400 BCE, but now it's just absurd.
Fire plays an important role in the Zoroastrian religion from Persia.  Moses' burning bush might have its origin in that and/or the Egyptian religion.
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#37
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(February 28, 2016 at 5:59 am)FebruaryOfReason Wrote:
(February 27, 2016 at 2:06 pm)dyresand Wrote: For a fictional character he is not very smart or all loving and he is lazy. He is the most loved character to mankind and let's talk about him
Starting with genesis..


Day 1: The heavens, the earth, light and darkness.
Day 2: Heaven
Day 3: Dry land, the seas, and vegetation.
Day 4: The sun, the moon and the stars.
Day 5: Living creatures in the water, birds in the air.
Day 6: Land animals and people.
Day 7: God "rested".

I have a quick question on this;

If God didn't create the sun until halfway through day 4, how did days 1 through 3 start and end?

Jesus H Christ on a bike, this stuff is so full of holes on the most basic level.
The Earth is the oldest thing in the universe.  How cool is that?
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#38
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(February 28, 2016 at 1:48 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(February 28, 2016 at 5:59 am)FebruaryOfReason Wrote: I have a quick question on this;

If God didn't create the sun until halfway through day 4, how did days 1 through 3 start and end?

Jesus H Christ on a bike, this stuff is so full of holes on the most basic level.

^ Because the people who wrote that  part of the bible were ignorant. If this were the reality of things
god is clearly stupid. So  yeah there was no days so day 4 would be day 1 since no sun and working in the dark.

But there was light and darkness so the light was not dependent upon the sun.
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#39
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(February 28, 2016 at 3:34 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Yeah, Yahweh.  
Amazing that anyone in this day and age could read the old testament and not just be saying "wtf is this shit?" every few minutes.
This morning, we had the story of the burning bush.  You know, the one where God showed Moses the image of a burning bush to get Moses to come over and talk to him . . . and tell Moses that he was chosen to lead the Hebrews out of slavery in Egypt.  Then as Moses approached this bush that was on fire but not being consumed, Yahweh told him to take off his sandals, because he was standing on "holy ground".  (I don't get this it all - those feel were filthy with or without the sandals.)  
    What I also don't get is why a deity who had created the universe - - - or at least the world, and everything on it, and was thought to be all-powerful and all-knowing, would even need to catch the attention of one human with a weird vision, much less somehow make his voice come out of this weird vision.  He could have just SPOKEN.  If he didn't want to show his face, he could have just been a glowing, human-shaped cloud, and talk to Moses.  Heck, he could have chosen a human-like form and showed himself to the entire band of "his people" and spoken to them.  No more graven images or disobedience . . . every single one of them would have seen SOMETHING and would have heard the voice of god.  But no, all of the prophets and priests have to go off ALONE, and then bring back the message.  They bring back goofy stories like bushes that are on fire but don't burn.
   Fire was a holy, magical thing in those days.  Egyptian mythology is full of magical, holy fire. Pentecost has the description of the Holy Ghost appearing as "tongues of fire" above believer's heads.  
   A burning bush.  It would have been a powerful story in 1400 BCE, but now it's just absurd.

I think there is a porn site called Burning Bush.
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#40
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(February 28, 2016 at 6:23 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(February 28, 2016 at 1:48 pm)dyresand Wrote: ^ Because the people who wrote that  part of the bible were ignorant. If this were the reality of things
god is clearly stupid. So  yeah there was no days so day 4 would be day 1 since no sun and working in the dark.

But there was light and darkness so the light was not dependent upon the sun.

That's not even right you cannot have light and darkness both together in a way. What i mean is
light he could have created the concept of light but it did not physically exist until day 4. For those "days"
he was in the dark.
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