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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 10:23 am
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Without a doubt, SAVE JESUS
If he did not die a martyr, his movement would have fallen into the scrap heap of apocalyptic cults of the time. This would spare humanity from this backward dark age philosophy thought.
I interesting to hear a Christians view on this moral dilemma: Save Jesus and no Christianity or Kill Jesus and have Christianity.
I have a feeling most Christians would rationalize KILLING JESUS. (Consistent with their hypocrisy).
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 10:39 am
(July 1, 2016 at 10:23 am)Darwins Disciple Wrote: Without a doubt, SAVE JESUS
If he did not die a martyr, his movement would have fallen into the scrap heap of apocalyptic cults of the time. This would spare humanity from this backward dark age philosophy thought.
I interesting to hear a Christians view on this moral dilemma: Save Jesus and no Christianity or Kill Jesus and no Christianity.
I have a feeling most Christians would rationalize KILLING JESUS. (Consistent with their hypocrisy).
Even when i did somewhat believe i took a moment and thought about about. Okay so a guy named jesus is going to die
i have the the power to save him doing so would alter and probably destroy the religion i believe in. On one hand witnessing a murder is
immoral because i have the power to save the guy in turn i would stop gods plan. Eventually i said fuck it i would save jesus there
is no not point in letting another fellow human being die even if he was the son of god or not. But again most historians would agree
that jesus existing the magical baby zombie jew didn't exist.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 11:28 am
The apostles had the power to call fire down from heaven to consume their enemies. When Jesus was being crucified they were lounging around eating figs, dates, and roasted lamb. Imagine how impressive that would have been. The apostles do their magic and fireballs cook the crowd and Jesus is saved. But if Jesus was God why didn't he save himself? And if he was God how did he ever allow himself to get into the position where he needed to be saved? It must have been because he had had too much wine.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 11:29 am
(July 1, 2016 at 10:23 am)Darwins Disciple Wrote: Without a doubt, SAVE JESUS
If he did not die a martyr, his movement would have fallen into the scrap heap of apocalyptic cults of the time. This would spare humanity from this backward dark age philosophy thought.
I interesting to hear a Christians view on this moral dilemma: Save Jesus and no Christianity or Kill Jesus and have Christianity.
I have a feeling most Christians would rationalize KILLING JESUS. (Consistent with their hypocrisy).
I was thinking about this in the "suicide" thread. I'm a little concerned, in the low view many seem to be portraying in one person sacrificing themselves to save others. I think that it is noble. While technically, a suicide mission is suicide I think that the motives make an important distinction.
As to your "moral dilemma", I think that if we get rid of the mischaracterizations, then I believe the dilemma disappears. As an ethical situation, killing someone, and not interfering with them saving others knowing, that they will die, is not the same thing.
Within the proper context, I don't see the hypocrisy.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 11:33 am
(July 1, 2016 at 11:29 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (July 1, 2016 at 10:23 am)Darwins Disciple Wrote: Without a doubt, SAVE JESUS
If he did not die a martyr, his movement would have fallen into the scrap heap of apocalyptic cults of the time. This would spare humanity from this backward dark age philosophy thought.
I interesting to hear a Christians view on this moral dilemma: Save Jesus and no Christianity or Kill Jesus and have Christianity.
I have a feeling most Christians would rationalize KILLING JESUS. (Consistent with their hypocrisy).
I was thinking about this in the "suicide" thread. I'm a little concerned, in the low view many seem to be portraying in one person sacrificing themselves to save others. I think that it is noble. While technically, a suicide mission is suicide I think that the motives make an important distinction.
As to your "moral dilemma", I think that if we get rid of the mischaracterizations, then I believe the dilemma disappears. As an ethical situation, killing someone, and not interfering with them saving others knowing, that they will die, is not the same thing.
Within the proper context, I don't see the hypocrisy. The problem is that Jesus didn't save anyone. Everyone still has to face Judgment Day on his own merits. If Jesus had actually saved people then there wouldn't be any Judgment Day because they would all get into the golden cube.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 11:45 am
(July 1, 2016 at 11:33 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (July 1, 2016 at 11:29 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I was thinking about this in the "suicide" thread. I'm a little concerned, in the low view many seem to be portraying in one person sacrificing themselves to save others. I think that it is noble. While technically, a suicide mission is suicide I think that the motives make an important distinction.
As to your "moral dilemma", I think that if we get rid of the mischaracterizations, then I believe the dilemma disappears. As an ethical situation, killing someone, and not interfering with them saving others knowing, that they will die, is not the same thing.
Within the proper context, I don't see the hypocrisy. The problem is that Jesus didn't save anyone. Everyone still has to face Judgment Day on his own merits. If Jesus had actually saved people then there wouldn't be any Judgment Day because they would all get into the golden cube.
^ Exactly so jesus killing himself via suicide by authority still doesn't save anyone from hell you still going to have to face god and jesus is no get into heaven free card.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 11:55 am
(July 1, 2016 at 11:33 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (July 1, 2016 at 11:29 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I was thinking about this in the "suicide" thread. I'm a little concerned, in the low view many seem to be portraying in one person sacrificing themselves to save others. I think that it is noble. While technically, a suicide mission is suicide I think that the motives make an important distinction.
As to your "moral dilemma", I think that if we get rid of the mischaracterizations, then I believe the dilemma disappears. As an ethical situation, killing someone, and not interfering with them saving others knowing, that they will die, is not the same thing.
Within the proper context, I don't see the hypocrisy. The problem is that Jesus didn't save anyone. Everyone still has to face Judgment Day on his own merits. If Jesus had actually saved people then there wouldn't be any Judgment Day because they would all get into the golden cube.
Where did you get that idea from; I would suggest, that you get better council and/or read the scriptures for yourself. It tells a different story.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 3:22 pm
(July 1, 2016 at 11:55 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: (July 1, 2016 at 11:33 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The problem is that Jesus didn't save anyone. Everyone still has to face Judgment Day on his own merits. If Jesus had actually saved people then there wouldn't be any Judgment Day because they would all get into the golden cube.
Where did you get that idea from; I would suggest, that you get better council and/or read the scriptures for yourself. It tells a different story. According to the biblical fairy tale you live, you die, you go to death, hell, or to the sea. On Judgment Day you pop up like a zombie and go to get judged. Death and hell get tossed into the lake of fire. You find out if your name is written in the Book of Life. If your name isn't there you get tossed into the lake of fire. So what good did it do for Jesus to die for your sins? None. It didn't get your name written into the Book of Life. You got tossed into the lake of fire. Jesus did a prank on you.
You need to read your favorite ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish religious fairy tale. It doesn't say what you think it says. You are probably mixing up several other ethnocentric religious fairy tales and combining elements from them into your own fairy tale to get what you want.
BTW, if you don't know who the Bible says was the first prophet was by name maybe you shouldn't discuss the fairy tale until you do.
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 3:58 pm
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HMN, you think that it's a low view? Let's say I have a mountain of unpaid parking tickets. Can we string up someone who doesn't have any parking tickets and just consider mine paid? Ofc I think that's ridiculous but apparently we're stringing up a jew because I think about nips from time to time, so.....I kind of have to ask...don't I?
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RE: Christians, would you have saved Jesus, if you had he chance?
July 1, 2016 at 4:45 pm
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Nah, not string him up just for parking tickets. Twat him with a baseball bat a few times for that.
Did they have baseball bats back then? A stick then. Pretty sure they had those.
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