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Are there anything could destroy thst proof
#21
RE: Are there anything could destroy thst proof
Notice the title of the BBC article.

Green Arabia's Key role in Human Evolution.

So you basically have an article that shows scientists believe something Muhammad was overheard saying maybe true.  But it's also discussing another scientific theory which basically disproves the Quran the way most Muslims interpret it anyway.  

I'm a bit jaded to the way the religious mind works but I predict there's going to be some confirmation bias here when most Muslims read this article.  There's going to be heavy skepticism, questioning and basic denial of the human evolution part, but rejoice, no questioning and full acceptance of the green Arabia part.

I realize that some Muslims do believe in evolution but I'm just talking about a tendency.  Plus after reading parts of the quran I personally don't understand how evolution fits in with God talking to dust and making a woman from mans rib and telling Adam the names of the animals.


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#22
RE: Are there anything could destroy thst proof
Well, it's enough for me. Where do I go to become a muslim?
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#23
RE: Are there anything could destroy thst proof
Quote:That link just describes how the area used to be green and lush before it turned into a desert. There is no reason to suggest that it will turn back again.


The entire Sahara used to be green and lush and probably in another 12,000 years will be again.  I recall a paper some time ago which suggested that a "wobble" in the earth's orbit was responsible.  Not some stupid fucking god.
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#24
RE: Are there anything could destroy thst proof
If you make enough predictions one or two will turn out to be correct, just ignore those that didn't work out and claim to be a great prophet.
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RE: Are there anything could destroy thst proof
(June 20, 2016 at 3:41 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: If you make enough predictions one or two will turn out to be correct, just ignore those that didn't work out and claim to be a great prophet.

You can go one better, keep the predictions vague enough and they'll be fulfilled about once a month.
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#26
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Hey, I'm standing right here!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Are there anything could destroy thst proof
(June 20, 2016 at 3:41 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: If you make enough predictions one or two will turn out to be correct, just ignore those that didn't work out and claim to be a great prophet.

Ala Sylvia Browne.
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(June 18, 2016 at 10:12 pm)rosechaos Wrote: Today i was reading about proofs that islam was real and muhamad was a prophet  for real.

And he said that  arabia dessert is going to get back to be a green landscape like it used to be before . Tbh i searched if that was fake or wrong but nobody said or mentioned that. Even scientists many of them said it was truth .
Heres a truth : http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34170798
Like how did he knew that. He have guessed many stuff that its going to happen in the future

Like women number will be ten times more than men in the future and thats true.  Female birth number is going to be higher through next years.


Please tell me there is an explination for that...
I hope he's wrong about the woman thing, especially if you are going to allow them to drive motor vehicles.
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#29
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China has a shortage of women thanks to their family planing laws.
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#30
RE: Are there anything could destroy thst proof
(June 18, 2016 at 11:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And where is this in the koran.

It's not in the Quran, the sources is a Hadith.

Just like most of these "prophecies"; ironically enough the Quran stated that the "hour" never comes unless by surprise; i.e nobody will know anything, and stated in so many verses that Mohammed knows nothing about the time of that day.

Sura 51
( 10 )   Destroyed are the falsifiers
( 11 )   Who are within a flood [of confusion] and heedless.
( 12 )   They ask, "When is the Day of Recompense?"
( 13 )    the Day they will be tormented over the Fire
( 14 )   "Taste your torment. This is that for which you were impatient."

But Sunni and Shiite Muslims, build their beliefs on what they call "the end of times"; using the Hadith to come up with the strangest beliefs that has no base in the Quran and hence: even criticized ?

I mean, this is a verse:

Sura 7
( 187 )   They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know." 

So the two dilemmas that Sunnies and Shiites face: isn't it a little bit contradictory for an unexpected event to have signs so obvious?
and then, didn't the God of Moammed say, that nobody would reveal it to its time but him?
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