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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 2:16 pm
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In the meantime, I'm convinced that untangling webs of misconception regarding guns, gun crime, gun deaths, and gun legislation is the only way to get two obviously disparate groups to reach some sort of mutual understanding, which...imo, is required as a basis for any sound gun policy or policy reform which we -clearly- need. The odds of success when one group thinks the other is out to set up a fascist state...and one is sure that the other are kid hating sociopaths... is slim to nil.
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 2:28 pm
You did a huge lumping there, on both groups.
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 2:29 pm
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They've worked hard for it, how can I deny them after all the effort?
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 3:21 pm
(June 25, 2016 at 2:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: They've worked hard for it, how can I deny them after all the effort?
Sounds more like media believing to me.
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 3:23 pm
I think that you're going to have to flesh that one out a little more before I understand what you mean?
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 3:38 pm
(June 25, 2016 at 3:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I think that you're going to have to flesh that one out a little more before I understand what you mean?
Okay, I'm a citizen of the US and an observer of the same, based on bachelors in Psych and Soc, and a Masters in History. The gun culture/counter culture here is heavily news-worthy, so it gets air time "at home and abroad". The mundane doesn't get reported, doesn't sell condoms and Viagra you know.
For the average person guns have little or no impact. The bunker mentality of the ardent/paranoid gunner is the except to the rule, not the norm. If you live here you'll hardly notice guns. We get news of morons leaving guns out for kids to kill themselves with, and the NRA is always preaching the gospel according to Annie Oakley. The vast bulk of Americans own zero to one guns, and if they own them they keep them put away safely. The NRA would have the US, and thus the world, believe that we need everything up to and including nuclear weapons to justify their salaries and "bonuses from concerned gunmakers citizens."
A smart consumer of news, especially US news, takes anything that sounds apocalyptic with a Prius-sized grain of salt.
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 3:39 pm
So we both agree that the NRA is full of shit?
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 4:01 pm
(June 25, 2016 at 3:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So we both agree that the NRA is full of shit?
Well, considering that they're fighting work that would reduce the number of kids who shoot themselves or someone else I'd say you're being very kind.
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 4:05 pm
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Except that they aren't, because no ones actually -doing that work- ......even though they intend to - if we're being kind.
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RE: For Americans tired of NRA bullying.
June 25, 2016 at 4:27 pm
(June 25, 2016 at 4:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Except that they aren't, because no ones actually -doing that work- ......even though they intend to - if we're being kind.
See? That's where the media believing comes in. I personally am working on a project with my Congressman.
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