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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 7:01 pm
(July 3, 2016 at 5:38 am)Irrational Wrote: (July 3, 2016 at 4:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Never understood the rant against 'career politicians'. If need a pipe fixed, I want a career plumber. If I need an operation, I want a career surgeon. And if I want my country to be run effectively, I certainly don't want neophyte pols at the helm who have no idea what they're doing.
Boru
What neophyte politicians are you referring to?
None in particular. Just making the general point that professionals tend to be better at any given job than amateurs.
Boru
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 7:27 pm
(July 3, 2016 at 11:14 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: How do you avoid being eaten by drop bears?
We have repellent.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 8:02 pm
(July 3, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Irrational Wrote: Thankfully, we don't have Trumps in Australia.
Yes we do, we have Pauline. She thinks that Trump is copying her policies. But at least it gave us the talents of Pauline Pantsdown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPlhz2iX_0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tZRZSGxcE
Aussies should watch Pauline's full 60 minutes interview, but particularly the section 11:48-14:32:
https://youtu.be/459x66E_vmo?t=708
(July 3, 2016 at 5:04 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Yep, the key to reducing government spending is to have a nation of sick and ignorant people. Besides, if everyone is ignorant then they aren't smart enough to become doctors anyway.
Strawman.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 8:31 pm
Big problem in Australian politics, Vampires:
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm
(July 3, 2016 at 8:02 pm)Aractus Wrote: (July 3, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Irrational Wrote: Thankfully, we don't have Trumps in Australia.
Yes we do, we have Pauline. She thinks that Trump is copying her policies. But at least it gave us the talents of Pauline Pantsdown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPlhz2iX_0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tZRZSGxcE
Aussies should watch Pauline's full 60 minutes interview, but particularly the section 11:48-14:32:
https://youtu.be/459x66E_vmo?t=708
(July 3, 2016 at 5:04 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Yep, the key to reducing government spending is to have a nation of sick and ignorant people. Besides, if everyone is ignorant then they aren't smart enough to become doctors anyway.
Strawman.
Is she like an Australian Margaret Thatcher or something?
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 9:20 pm
(July 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: (July 3, 2016 at 8:02 pm)Aractus Wrote: Yes we do, we have Pauline. She thinks that Trump is copying her policies. But at least it gave us the talents of Pauline Pantsdown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPlhz2iX_0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tZRZSGxcE
Aussies should watch Pauline's full 60 minutes interview, but particularly the section 11:48-14:32:
https://youtu.be/459x66E_vmo?t=708
Strawman.
Is she like an Australian Margaret Thatcher or something?
Not as such. Margaret Thatcher was brilliant and evil. Pauline Hanson is a simply a stupid bigot.
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 9:39 pm
(July 3, 2016 at 7:01 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 3, 2016 at 5:38 am)Irrational Wrote: What neophyte politicians are you referring to?
None in particular. Just making the general point that professionals tend to be better at any given job than amateurs.
Boru Why do professional politicians perform so poorly in all settings around the world? Can you cite any instances where they have produced consistent outstanding results?
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 9:49 pm
Dying to live, living to die.
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 3, 2016 at 11:45 pm
(July 3, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Is she like an Australian Margaret Thatcher or something?
No. Thatcher was a part of a major party - Pauline was a member of a major party (Liberal), but she was kicked out of the party for her nationalist views (and in particular her views on Aboriginal "benefits"). Therefore the Liberals were unable to run a candidate, and she attracted all the Liberal vote, and campaigned well and won enough votes to get elected in 1996 federal election. She believes firmly that she represents the views of Australians - and while she might be partially right in some areas, overall she does not at all embrace Australian values. Multiculturalism is a central Aussie value, but she believes in assimilation - a policy based on 18th and 19th century "wisdom". Yes some people do assimilate more than others, but that doesn't mean that all do. Ayaan Hirsi Ali was in Australia a few months ago spreading that same bigotry, and I don't know why she was given a forum and allowed to appear on shows such as Q&A to spread her bullshit. She claimed that "multiculturalism has never worked" repeatedly: but it does work for Australia, and it also worked for the Ancient Roman Empire. So to suggest otherwise is completely disingenuous. If you oppress people you will cause them to react violently and do terrorist acts. That's why Palestinians do it. It's not because they're bad people - it's because they're horribly oppressed, they aren't allowed to work, their land has been stolen (and stolen in the very real sense that Israel does not respect the UN Two State solution). That's not to excuse any violent terrorist type acts, but just to explain that such policies make things much worse, not better.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Aussie Election Results
July 4, 2016 at 3:00 am
(July 3, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Irrational Wrote: Thankfully, we don't have Trumps in Australia.
Some people disagree:
http://twitter.com/MikKirk/status/749092...88/photo/1
You are allowed to write on your ballot paper. So if the person who took that photo then went and correctly numbered all the boxes before casting their vote, then it would still be a formal vote.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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