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Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 17, 2016 at 9:48 pm)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote:
(October 17, 2016 at 9:47 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The MSM doesn't lie so much as leaves out key details.
What is MSM?

Oh, main stream media.

Why ask the question if you know the answer?
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 8:41 am)Bella Morte Wrote:
(October 17, 2016 at 9:48 pm)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: What is MSM?

Oh, main stream media.

Why ask the question if you know the answer?
Because it didn't register when I looked at it at first?
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#13
RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 8:44 am)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote:
(October 18, 2016 at 8:41 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Why ask the question if you know the answer?
Because it didn't register when I looked at it at first?

Sorry, I just noticed you edited your post.
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 8:40 am)Faith No More Wrote: Actually, a study showed that people who got their information from "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" were more knowledgable than people who got their news from other sources.

Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on something like that. Even if I like the way something is reported, I go check left, right and center if I'm sufficiently interested in a certain topic.

The nature of the game is knowing where the medium in question is leaning to. If it's mainstream, it's still based on facts. The only remaining question is what the particular paper, show or network make of the facts and how they interpret them.
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 9:17 am)abaris Wrote: Yeah, but I wouldn't rely on something like that. Even if I like the way something is reported, I go check left, right and center if I'm sufficiently interested in a certain topic.

The nature of the game is knowing where the medium in question is leaning to. If it's mainstream, it's still based on facts. The only remaining question is what the particular paper, show or network make of the facts and how they interpret them.

I wouldn't rely solely on it, but my point was that comedy shows like that actually do a better job at reporting facts than the major news networks.

They might take a liberal viewpoint on the facts, but it's like Jon Stewart said. "Reality has a liberal bias."
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 9:44 am)Faith No More Wrote: I wouldn't rely solely on it, but my point was that comedy shows like that actually do a better job at reporting facts than the major news networks.

They might take a liberal viewpoint on the facts, but it's like Jon Stewart said.  "Reality has a liberal bias."

It's not so much the liberal bias. I can laugh and appreciate a lot of things Maher brings into his show. But on the other hand he's also a knife between his teeth anti theist. And that's not a route I'm willing to take, even in comedy.

My point is, most have an agenda. The difference between Maher and - to take the other, not comedy related extreme - Breitbart, is one very important fact. Maher still uses news sources to base his interpretation on them. He's selective of course, but the base is still news. Breitbart and cronies mainly quote other bloggers on the right end of the spectrum and sell the opinion of a single blogger as fact. It's glaringly obvious when they do some piece on my extended neighbourhood, since it's easy to find out where there information originated - which in most cases, as I said - is a single blog. And it's also pretty easy to find out what's really behind the supposed incident. If it was important enough to interest mainstream it was in our media anyway. In that case it's always blown out of proportion - often times already by the original blogger or later on by the boys of Breitbart.
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
Hey guys, I really don't care about your discussion. Can we get back to what I was talking about?
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#18
RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 9:54 am)abaris Wrote: It's not so much the liberal bias. I can laugh and appreciate a lot of things Maher brings into his show. But on the other hand he's also a knife between his teeth anti theist. And that's not a route I'm willing to take, even in comedy.

My point is, most have an agenda. The difference between Maher and - to take the other, not comedy related extreme - Breitbart, is one very important fact. Maher still uses news sources to base his interpretation on them. He's selective of course, but the base is still news. Breitbart and cronies mainly quote other bloggers on the right end of the spectrum and sell the opinion of a single blogger as fact. It's glaringly obvious when they do some piece on my extended neighbourhood, since it's easy to find out where there information originated - which in most cases, as I said - is a single blog. And it's also pretty easy to find out what's really behind the supposed incident. If it was important enough to interest mainstream it was in our media anyway. In that case it's always blown out of proportion - often times already by the original blogger or later on by the boys of Breitbart.

If you read back to my other post, I wasn't actually including Bill Maher. I don't consider him to be as reliable with the facts as "The Daily Show."
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 9:57 am)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: Hey guys, I really don't care about your discussion. Can we get back to what I was talking about?

I don't really care that you don't care, and our discussion is actually quite on topic. So, fuck off.

Who are you? The forum police?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Having a hard time really knowing who to trust in politics anymore
(October 18, 2016 at 10:26 am)Faith No More Wrote:
(October 18, 2016 at 9:57 am)EruptedCarcassBloat Wrote: Hey guys, I really don't care about your discussion. Can we get back to what I was talking about?

I don't really care that you don't care, and our discussion is actually quite on topic.  So, fuck off.

Who are you?  The forum police?
You have something stupid and non contributing to say in every thread I've seen you in. Now you're just being a rude whiny little asshole.
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