Anybody Watching the Last Trainwreck/ Presidential Debate Tonight?

[Minimalist]

Much less boring than soccer.

[Seraphina]

You aren't voting for your local measures and stuff?  I mean, you can vote for your local stuff and just not fill in the president part.  Local measures and things like mayor and city council really do matter, and in those cases, your votes also matter.

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Definitely don't "stay home" on election day even if you say "screw it" to the presidential candidates.
I said eff it to the 2004 presidential election after the debacle in 2000 but I still voted on election day in the other contests.

This year, I will also be voting for members of Congress, state senators, my local parks and recreation district and water district, not to mention 17 state propositions including whether to legalize recreational marijuana and whether porn actors should have to use condoms (that's a real one, folks ).

So, vote!

[Thumpalumpacus]

The POTUS can have influence, but neither of these idiots have the leadership capabilities to affect change.

And what of followership? The willingness to suborn one's own goals to the greater good is part of teamwork too, and yet we have a Congress that refuses to consider Supreme Court nominees in defiance of their own appointed duty, because they are more concerned with the next election than the next generation.

Play it safe, CYA, toe the party line -- those infections afflict not only Presidential candidates, but legislators as well.

Our nation is a case-study in the troubles brought on by refusal to compromise, or a refusal to accept a derogated role. "Too many chefs spoil the broth", right?

Leadership requires followership, and vice-versa. That is teamwork: knowing your place on the team, and doing your best at your job. Sadly, we Americans seem to be lacking on both counts.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Much less boring than soccer.

Only because they allow a little scrapping!

[SofaKingHigh]

The game is football you heathens.

[Faith No More]

I'm voting in November but just to vote against my Representative, and other local elections. I think I might write in Vermin Supreme for President

Joe Exotic is the lesser of two evils.  Just look a how he tells it like it is.

[Crossless2.0]

Much less boring than soccer.

Only because they allow a little scrapping!

There's that, but scrapping isn't the whole story. Hockey is a much faster game. TV doesn't do it justice. The way to experience hockey is to attend a game in person, preferably right behind the glass. I love it but stopped really following it all those years ago when the North Stars folded up the tent and moved to Dallas. I haven't given two shits about the NHL since, though I will watch the Stanley Cup games with the same detached interest I bring to the World Series or the NBA finals.

[Aegon]

Much less boring than soccer.

I used to agree, but it's been growing on me. But baseball...

[Aegon]

I'm voting in November but just to vote against my Representative, and other local elections. I think I might write in Vermin Supreme for President

Joe Exotic is the lesser of two evils.  Just look a how he tells it like it is.

This killed me. Holy shit.

[Aegon]

You aren't voting for your local measures and stuff?  I mean, you can vote for your local stuff and just not fill in the president part.  Local measures and things like mayor and city council really do matter, and in those cases, your votes also matter.

Lmao, my county executive just got arrested on corruption charges. I guess my local election just got a tad more interesting