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Q for Alex
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 Q for Alex
November 22, 2016 at 1:38 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2016 at 1:39 pm by Anomalocaris.)
Hmmm, what are the implications of the theory of emergent gravity? And what specific testable predictions does it make that would theoretically allow it to be validated against other competing theories?
 RE: Q for Alex
November 22, 2016 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2016 at 5:43 pm by Alex K.)
Good question! Back in 2009/2010 when entropic gravity came out, I once went to lunch with Verlinde after his talk and had all the opportunities to discuss, and I still don't understand the theory. I really don't. Every time I tried to get what they are doing, it ended with frustration. If the people promoting it weren't renowned scientists, I think I would have decided that it's nonsense long ago, but things being the way they are, I'm probably too stupid or something.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
There is no gravity. Space-time just sucks.
Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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November 22, 2016 at 11:14 pm
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2016 at 1:11 am by Anomalocaris.)
Does emergent gravity imply gravity is not a force mediated by a messenger graviton, but merely a complex statistical phenomenon that cause other particles to behave in a collective way that we empirically describe with our theories of gravity?
(November 22, 2016 at 11:14 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Does emergent gravity imply gravity is not a force mediated by a messenger graviton, but merely a complex statistical phenomenon that cause other particles to behave in a collective way that we empirically describe with our theories of gravity? Yes, in a sense though I think there still would be something like gravitons - it would probably at least imply that gravitons aren't fundamental particles but instead the quanta of something else. That's a good question to investigate in order to gain a better understanding of the whole thing.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
 (November 22, 2016 at 5:40 pm)Alex K Wrote: Good question! Back in 2009/2010 when entropic gravity came out, I once went to lunch with Verlinde after his talk and had all the opportunities to discuss, and I still don't understand the theory. I really don't. Every time I tried to get what they are doing, it ended with frustration. If the people promoting it weren't renowned scientists, I think I would have decided that it's nonsense long ago, but things being the way they are, I'm probably too stupid or something. I doubt that. It seems to me that the smartest people are the ones who can spin the most complex webs of BS if they are motivated to do so-- even to themselves. |
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