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White people assuming other white people like Trump
#71
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
(March 28, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Gearbreak Wrote: Yes I mean that. Muslim's that integrate with our culture don't bother me. Extremism does bother me from any group of people.

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What precisely do you mean by the bolded part?
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#72
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
(March 29, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(March 28, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Gearbreak Wrote: Yes I mean that. Muslim's that integrate with our culture don't bother me. Extremism does bother me from any group of people.

(Emphasis added)

What precisely do you mean by the bolded part?

Assimilate become part of the borg or get kicked out.

I don't see the fucking need one pit to bring up any religion or any nationality from any part of the world. You don't need to say Muslim, or Mexican or Asian or whatever to say, "Want to live here in peace, you can stay, get violent and we will come after you like any violent criminal born here".

"Culture" is a stupid word to me, it is what humans worldwide hide behind to ignore that we are not a separate species. Humans grow up being used to different food, different cloths, different religions, different politics yea sure, but since when has that ever made us a separate species? We all love our families, we all love our friends, we all seek a way to survive. 

"Lifestye" is another word I hate. Nobody has a "lifestyle" we all just do things differently while living life. That word like culture is far too often used by humans to create the illusion to that person, or group that there is something better about them. You don't need the word "culture" or "lifestyle" to say humans have differences in how we do the same things while living. 

I most certainly do not expect any non violent migrant who lives here to be like me, so I could give a shit less what they do. I do care about violent individuals and those would be in any case, a majority who are born here.
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#73
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
(March 29, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(March 28, 2017 at 7:48 pm)Gearbreak Wrote: Yes I mean that. Muslim's that integrate with our culture don't bother me. Extremism does bother me from any group of people.

(Emphasis added)

What precisely do you mean by the bolded part?

They should try to understand and integrate core American values while still keeping the cultural values that are important to them. They don't have to drop their culture, but they do have to understand that women and homosexuals have rights ect ect.
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#74
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
Why do they have to understand that?  A significant number of americans don't.  Wink
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#75
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
I'm still trying to figure out what "our culture" means, as if it's a homogeneous thing.
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#76
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
(March 31, 2017 at 9:43 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I'm still trying to figure out what "our culture" means, as if it's a homogeneous thing.

"culture", "class", "economic view", "political party", "nationality", "race", "religion" are all artificial constructs humans invent to set up social order.

Certainly there are economic issues and  political ideas that hurt humans more, like theocracies and one party states. But unfortunately evolution does not care if cooperation, openness, or oppression work. None of the labels, not even "atheist" dictate if the individual will be violent or non violent, our behaviors are evolutionary. 

Far too much of the world's population still sees "success" as local and tribal and far too much of the world is stuck in the local and tribal. If most humans could go to the moon and look back at earth, maybe they would understand what Sagan knows, what the empathetic of the world know, that this is our only home.
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#77
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
Dude, seriously. I don't need to be lectured on that.
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#78
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
(March 31, 2017 at 10:07 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Dude, seriously.  I don't need to be lectured on that.

Quoting you does not have to be viewed on your part as me lecturing you. Adding to what you say is for the other readers. Ever see a presentation with more than one presenter? Don't assume that I was aiming that you just because I quote you.
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#79
RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
Quote:but they do have to understand that women and homosexuals have rights ect ect.

When Americans have a universal respect for that  you can lecture the Muslims
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: White people assuming other white people like Trump
(March 31, 2017 at 11:30 am)Orochi Wrote:
Quote:but they do have to understand that women and homosexuals have rights ect ect.

When Americans have a universal respect for that  you can lecture the Muslims

If you're openly homosexual in the US the worst an average bigot will do is call you names. If you're openly homosexual in the middle East you're not living long. Women have centers and people to go to for support in the US if they're raped or abused. Middle eastern women have to keep that to themselves if they don't want to be executed for adultery. There is a definite difference in attitudes.
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