Why Religion is corrupt (on a personal note)

[Darwinian]

I think that we are all still waiting for FutureAndAHope to apologise for that disgusting statement at the end of his post.

I'm hoping that he didn't read the original post properly otherwise it's hard to imagine how anyone can be so unfeeling.

[Demonaura]

I'm not waiting, I know he won't sincerely apoligize.

I did however lose all respect, I almost liked conversing with him. While he is pretty typical he stayed polite.

Now it's clear that politeness is a show, like most theists he obviously does not love people, only their christianity.

That last bit is of course my opinion only but, comments like that one SERIOUSLY rub me the wrong way.

EDIT: I just went and made a video about it, got it out of my system a bit. Now I can be a little less irritated at him.

[Ace Otana]

it is the teaching and endoctrination of athiesm that is delusional. And if you had a drop of sense you would take these things far more seriously. They are true stories not fairy tales.

Why do you think atheism is delusional? Were not the ones making any kind of claim. We simply reject yours. There is no evidence to support your claims and so it makes it very easy for people to reject it.

Atheists do tend to take things seriously but if you cannot take us seriously that we have looked and rejected your claims then clearly your not seeing the picture. I have looked into religion but have found it to be without science, logic or reason and also no evidence. We can't really take it anymore seriously than if the claim was of santa claws because both your imaginary friend and santa claws seem very alike. Both lack evidence and both are completely made up.

Religion is the biggest delusion on this planet. To think the world is under ten thousand years old and created by some immoral loony who can't be detected in any way and that there happens to be no evidence to say it's true, is completely delusional.

My advice - skip the story telling and get with the evidence.

[leo-rcc]

It is delusion to think it could some how happen by random chance.

So inventing some guy in the sky is a much more plausible solution?

It is not me who is delusional it is the teaching and endoctrination of athiesm that is delusional. And if you had a drop of sense you would take these things far more seriously. They are true stories not fairy tales.

What teaching, what indoctrination? There are no teachings or dogmas or anything like that involved, just not buying into the fairy tales of for instance some 2000 year old desert cult.

[WWLD]

He doesn't get it

He wont apologize, but whatever, he doesn't know what he did

I feel sorry for him.

[FutureAndAHope]

FutureAndAhope,

Thanks, but no thanks

I really don't understand your reasoning. How is it that reading them those stories would be in any way beneficial to my problem?


I shouldn't have to be sorry for my atheism.

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thanks bozo

Those stories are true stories, they show examples of God interacting with me, which is how he wishes to interact with you. I believe you need to return to your roots. Which would solve the problem you are having with your parents.

[WWLD]

FutureAndAhope,

Thanks, but no thanks

I really don't understand your reasoning. How is it that reading them those stories would be in any way beneficial to my problem?


I shouldn't have to be sorry for my atheism.

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thanks bozo

Those stories are true stories, they show examples of God interacting with me, which is how he wishes to interact with you. I believe you need to return to your roots. Which would solve the problem you are having with your parents.

Yeah I'm sure they are true stories, but they do not show examples of god interacting with anyone. They are examples of random chance.

Return to my roots? Is that a serious suggestion? Like Demonaura said in his video, belief is not a light switch I can turn on and off, and I shouldn't have to change what I believe to solve a problem I have with my parents.

You are making Christians look very bad with everything you say. Notice how everyone else posting on this thread are offering real support, which I REALLY appreciate, while you are telling me I need to be sorry for not believing, suggesting that I stopped believing just to "rub them the wrong way", and that I need to change in order for my parents to accept me.

I was upset at the things you've said in your previous posts, but this time you really pissed me off.

Your posts show me that you are blind, uneducated, ignorant, naive.

I'm usually not like this to anyone, but that crossed the line. You don't even know what you did, that's that saddest part.

[chatpilot]

FutureAndAHope I resent your statement that atheism is delusional when in fact the reverse is true.Atheists in general rely on evidence,logic and reason before we make statements of fact and consider them truths.Unlike religionists who put all of their trust and belief in a book that was invented by men.The bible is nothing more than a book of plagiarized pagan myths that predated Judaism and Christianity.The stories in both the Old and the New Testaments have been written and reworked to adjust to the times in which they were copied.Not to mention that the authors whose names are attributed to most of the books in the bible are in some instances non-existent or written by unknown authors who appended the names of prophets and so called disciples of Christ to give the books an air of authority.

Most of the bible stories can be found in ancient mythologies from all over the world only the places and the names change and the stories might differ in minute details.Also,lets not forget the many contradictions within the book itself and the fact that none of the original writings of scripture are extant (still in existence)in fact that bible that you read is actually a copy of many other copies.Not to mention the way the books were so called claimed as divinely inspired,once again a panel of men called the cannon read scrolls and decided amongst themselves what was of god and what was not of godly inspiration.

Lets not forget how your loving God according to the O.T. on many ocassions murdered or sanctioned the murder of thousands of people,the enslaving of women and young boys,the hostile take overs of land that did not rightfully belong to the Hebrews,and the degradation of women as inferior to men.I think I have made my point succintly and will leave this with you my friend as food for thought.

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WWLD dont sweat it sweety every once in awhile you run into some people like Hope dont let it get personal.The best way to refute a christian is to show him how foolish his belief really is.I like to use the bible to tear them apart but no matter how much you show them faith in many cases overpowers reason.I just let them babble on with their tired old fairy tales eventually they tire of trying to win your soul for their fictional saviour.

[FutureAndAHope]

Sorry if I got you angry, it is not my intention to anger any one. I just have a different perspective on how you can solve your problem. But I see that you are not open to it.

[lukec]

Sorry if I got you angry, it is not my intention to anger any one. I just have a different perspective on how you can solve your problem. But I see that you are not open to it.

Perhaps to help you better empathize with others, you should read the Qur'an and the Torah?