How about this..

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

You are the village idiot. Mathilda has already made a nice summary of what has happened here and the lunacy you are engaged in here. 

I do not have the time nor the interest of engaging erratic village idiots in serious conversation. You are no threat, teacher or challenge, you are a punching ball. I punch the ball when i feel i want to, i do not argue with it.

You arent happy with not being taken serious? Stop being erratic, stop lying, stop strwamanning, stop your oh-so-transparent over inflation of yourself. You know, smart people can pretend to be stupid, you are trying it the other way around. Stop being a dick, start being a (somewhat) decent poster. I do not have to like the people i am engaging in discourse, but i have to respect them. You have done pretty much nothing to warrant my respect, its quite the other way around. I dont even have a problem with the ignorant, but with those who like to stay ignorant.

again you are still proving me correct. I asked you twice for your personal expert analysis as an engineer and you have failed both time rather defaulting to name calling and ad hoc personal attacks. Even after I showed you how predictable you all where here you are the only one who still does not understand how you were just outed by me. i can not believe non of your peers has trying to help you yet. them must also think very poorly of you if they let you just keep going on and on about a subject they have all left 3 threads back.

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None of those are correct.  Would you like to have another go?

Boru

If you have any exegetical knowledge then please do share with proper references. otherwise final answer.

The twelve Disciples chose by Jesus were Nephi, Timothy, Jonas, Mathony, Mathoninah, Kumen, Kumenonhi, Jeremiah, Shemnon, another Jonas, Zedekiah, and Isaiah. 

Reference:  3 Nephi 28

Boru

[Anomalocaris]

Jesus overlooked Larry, Curley and Moe.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Jesus overlooked Larry, Curley and Moe.

Not entirely.  Peloponnesians 13:12 'And the Lord did call unto him Jerome and saith, "Thou shalt be called Curly" and it was so.'

Boru

[Deesse23]

again you are still proving me correct. I asked you twice for your personal expert analysis as an engineer and you have failed both time rather defaulting to name calling and ad hoc personal attacks. Even after I showed you how predictable you all where here you are the only one who still does not understand how you were just outed by me. i can not believe non of your peers has trying to help you yet. them must also think very poorly of you if they let you just keep going on and on about a subject they have all left 3 threads back.

When i fell like punching the ball, ill let you know. Otherwise there is no point in civil interaction with a fool like you. Call me when you are ready to drop your cheap and silly bluffs and actually learn something. I dont have to prove anything. Cuz, ya know, its all documented on this board. Your ignorance, your lies, your unwarranted grandiosity.

[Drich]

This is hilarious.

Do you not know the word exegesis?
 
it basically means to explain.

I am asking for an explanation if boru has a better one than what I can offer..

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again you are still proving me correct. I asked you twice for your personal expert analysis as an engineer and you have failed both time rather defaulting to name calling and ad hoc personal attacks. Even after I showed you how predictable you all where here you are the only one who still does not understand how you were just outed by me. i can not believe non of your peers has trying to help you yet. them must also think very poorly of you if they let you just keep going on and on about a subject they have all left 3 threads back.

When i fell like punching the ball, ill let you know. Otherwise there is no point in civil interaction with a fool like you. Call me when you are ready to drop your cheap and silly bluffs and actually learn something. I dont have to prove anything. Cuz, ya know, its all documented on this board. Your ignorance, your lies, your unwarranted grandiosity.

which has taken a back seat to 4 quests by me for you to explain how the 2nd law of thermal dynamics does not apply to my machine, and or what does YOUR use of the word nuclear fuel found in the crust have to do with my machine.

Then I also ask how does your explanation differ from what I said in post 207.

I do not know or understand how you have painted me this way when the last for posts of me as areing for you to explain yourself to like me clarify what it is you have said. I even went so far as to show you what youre current confusion is leading me to believe. (that you are stuck and can't get past yourself) By simply providing the information I requested this whole thing can be resolved one way or another..

As an engineer I'm sure you can appreciate having a proper sense of closure and accomplishment for doing a job thoroughly and fixing a problem that once kept someone from working the right way with the correct information. Cause it is hard to imagine a engineer who can just turn off the problems that are set in front of us. I know me personally go to sleep thinking of ways to over come technical issues or finding a better way to teach and or explain. even if I have to reinvent everything every few years.

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again you are still proving me correct. I asked you twice for your personal expert analysis as an engineer and you have failed both time rather defaulting to name calling and ad hoc personal attacks. Even after I showed you how predictable you all where here you are the only one who still does not understand how you were just outed by me. i can not believe non of your peers has trying to help you yet. them must also think very poorly of you if they let you just keep going on and on about a subject they have all left 3 threads back.

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If you have any exegetical knowledge then please do share with proper references. otherwise final answer.

The twelve Disciples chose by Jesus were Nephi, Timothy, Jonas, Mathony, Mathoninah, Kumen, Kumenonhi, Jeremiah, Shemnon, another Jonas, Zedekiah, and Isaiah. 

Reference:  3 Nephi 28

Boru

sorry did not know we were working out of the book of moron. 

If that is the case know my list is still correct. as those disciples still exist as the original 12 of jesus in Israel even for the mormons. 

However when Jesus came to america Or the bits that would become arkansas and kentucky he found a new set of deciples born here in Merica.
That is where your list comes form. you would have known that if you read the context of the passages you quoted..

Speaking of which i doubble checked you citation... it does not mention disciple names of any sort.
here: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stud...8?lang=eng
Can you point out which verse in 3 nephi chapter 28 it is... because according to this intrestingly enough verse 25 yes their names shall not be written..
25 Behold, I was about to write the  of those who were never to taste of death, but the Lord forbade; therefore I write them not, for they are hid from the world.

So aside from blind church tradition the book of mormon does not seem to support at this moment where did you get your list?


Then there is your use of the word apostle in the original request.. something a good moron knows can not be assigned to one of the 12 from america Jesus 'picked' here. So you where setting me up to intentionally fail here..

not a very honest effort on your part is it?

[I_am_not_mafia]

which has taken a back seat to 4 quests by me for you to explain how the 2nd law of thermal dynamics does not apply to my machine

Absolutely no one has said that the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to your proposed machine.

On the contrary, people have said that your machine is not a perpetual motion machine precisely because the second law of thermodynamics applies to it.

As it does to absolutely everything else ever known about.

This has been repeatedly explained to you but for some reason you are not capable of understanding this.

[Drich]

which has taken a back seat to 4 quests by me for you to explain how the 2nd law of thermal dynamics does not apply to my machine

Absolutely no one has said that the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to your proposed machine.

On the contrary, people have said that your machine is not a perpetual motion machine precisely because the second law of thermodynamics applies to it.

As it does to absolutely everything else ever known about.

This has been repeatedly explained to you but for some reason you are not capable of understanding this.

What has been explained is what I revealed my self in the "So what happened" thread post number 207.

Because the second law does not apply EG I am not breaking the second law then all arguments or understanding you have to bring the 2nd law up are moot!/over/non existent!!! Do you understand you can not argue I am not breaking the law if I myself do not say that I am!! (which is what you are trying to do to save face)

Yes yes i get what you are saying people are telling me it is not perpetual motion because I'm not breaking the second law... the problem you can not explain how. not once ever in one of your post have you been able to explain this. Why? because no matter how many times I explain it you do not understand to correlation between the second law and what my machine does use to perpetuate motion. that is how and why I can point to your argument and tell you and everyone else you do not know what you are talking about that you read a wiki page that told you PMM's can not exist other wise the would break the second law.. that is all you been harping on this whole time. you think that has saved you when in fact it condemns you further.

 what's worse.. I bet you don't understand why a pmm can not exist, otherwise this conversation would be pointed at what does indeed perpetuates motion indefinitely in this machine and that is FUEL!!! Once you say fuel the argument is over. yet you are still not smart enough to point this out no matter how many times i point to the literal definition and tell you why my pmm does not work as a pmm! 

so yeah you and desees keep harping the 2nd law, as this will be your proof that I am the dummy here and you where right all along.

[LastPoet]

Lmao. Unconditional surrender Drich...

[I_am_not_mafia]

Yes yes i get what you are saying people are telling me it is not perpetual motion because I'm not breaking the second law... the problem you can not explain how. not once ever in one of your post have you been able to explain this. Why?

Because we're trying to avoid confusing you. Besides, it has been pointed out to you.

Why perpetual motion is impossible?
The reason why perpetual motion machines are impossible is because friction and other forces always manage to sap energy. You can make as close to a friction-free pendulum as possible, but it’s still a nearly zero-sum equation, with some minuscule amount of energy loss.

https://www.livescience.com/55944-perpet...hines.html

Basically the second law says that entropy will always increase over time. This means that a system cannot be perpetual because nothing lasts forever.

To use a simplistic analogy. Think of a ball on top of a hill. It can roll down to the bottom of the hill but can't roll back up it, at least not to the same height as before. Eventually the ball will settle into the most stable state it can where there is nowhere further to roll down, and by doing so global entropy will be increased.

The hill is a thermodynamic gradient.

Fuel is shorthand to describe a thermodynamic gradient that can be exploited to perform work.

Because of the second law of Thermodynamics, the thermodynamic gradient will be reduced over time and global entropy will be increased.

[Deesse23]

so yeah you and desees keep harping the 2nd law

I mentioned the second law of thermal     erm thermodynamics exactly once, namely in this post:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-59309-p...pid1921513

Do you have problems with what i said in this post? If so, please explain.