With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs

[WinterHold]

I look at it from a fundamental standpoint: the zionists have no place in this region and they must departure the same way they came. It's not a matter of a west bank or a Gazza; it is a matter of departing this region because they have no place here.

Disagree. The ‘ancestral home’ argument carries substantial weight. That particular bit of the Middle East belonged to Jews for at least two millennia before Mohammed was a gleam in the milkman’s eye.

The trouble isn’t that they’re there, it that they don’t feel that other people with a legitimate  claim merit equal consideration.

Boru

Palestine belongs to its native Palestinian people, the land belongs to these natives, not to invaders.

[Deesse23]

Why is the occupying of Palestine is still viewed as an achievement to acknowledge

Ask a member of one of the 3 abrahamic religions, if you know one.  

; or that the Zionist invaders have a right in a foreign land they weren't born in ?

Less than 10% of all Israelis currently alive were born when the state of Isreal was founded. Thus, 90% of all Israelis didnt, and possbily couldnt ever have, *invaded* Palestine but were born there.  

Also please drop that insanely stupid "Zionist" crap.
Israel =!= all Israelis =!= Zionist

Thats insanely ignorant, even by your own stadards. At least it should be, but much like Trump you are one bag of wonders  

Decades and massacres didn't help Zionism; it only made their borders shrink and their power shrink even more.

KGB mafia became Europe's only choice to demonstrate its powers; with France dying and the UK brexiting and the U.S being ruled by a traitor.

Dude, get off those drugs! KGB...."europes choice". Dude! You are crazy. Batshit.fucking.crazy.  

U.S.: you may be surprised now, but the U.S......isnt part of europe, seriously. It never was. Look it up!

[Brian37]

I look at it from a fundamental standpoint: the zionists have no place in this region and they must departure the same way they came. It's not a matter of a west bank or a Gazza; it is a matter of departing this region because they have no place here.

Disagree. The ‘ancestral home’ argument carries substantial weight. That particular bit of the Middle East belonged to Jews for at least two millennia before Mohammed was a gleam in the milkman’s eye.

The trouble isn’t that they’re there, it that they don’t feel that other people with a legitimate  claim merit equal consideration.

Boru

And before Jews that same land was occupied by polytheists.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Disagree. The ‘ancestral home’ argument carries substantial weight. That particular bit of the Middle East belonged to Jews for at least two millennia before Mohammed was a gleam in the milkman’s eye.

The trouble isn’t that they’re there, it that they don’t feel that other people with a legitimate  claim merit equal consideration.

Boru

Palestine belongs to its native Palestinian people, the land belongs to these natives, not to invaders.

The earliest residents of Palestine were the Canaanites, the cultural ancestors of the Israelites. 

In other words, the ‘native Palestinian people’ you refer to are Israelites, or (if you prefer) Jews. 

This isn’t to say that modern Palestinians didn’t get horrible treatment and a raw deal - they absolutely did.  It’s a shonda the way they’ve been treated.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Disagree. The ‘ancestral home’ argument carries substantial weight. That particular bit of the Middle East belonged to Jews for at least two millennia before Mohammed was a gleam in the milkman’s eye.

The trouble isn’t that they’re there, it that they don’t feel that other people with a legitimate  claim merit equal consideration.

Boru

And before Jews that same land was occupied by polytheists.

Utterly immaterial and completely beside the point.

Boru

[brewer]

If history repeats, some terrorist act will derail this.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

If history repeats, some terrorist act will derail this.

Maybe not. It’s only a terrorist act if a Palestinian throw a rock. If Israel responds with a missile barrage, it’s called ‘national defense’.

Boru

[Deesse23]

If history repeats, some terrorist act will derail this.

Maybe not. It’s only a terrorist act if a Palestinian throw a rock. If Israel responds with a missile barrage, it’s called ‘national defense’.

Boru

Imo both parties/factions have deserved each other, to some degree.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Maybe not. It’s only a terrorist act if a Palestinian throw a rock. If Israel responds with a missile barrage, it’s called ‘national defense’.

Boru

Imo both parties/factions have deserved each other, to some degree.

‘Degree’ is what matters. The way Israel responds to Palestinian ‘attacks’ is like me firebombing your house because you shortchanged me at the market.

Boru

[Deesse23]

Imo both parties/factions have deserved each other, to some degree.

‘Degree’ is what matters. The way Israel responds to Palestinian ‘attacks’ is like me firebombing your house because you shortchanged me at the market.

Boru

If it was just kids throwing rocks, the issue of "whose fault is it" would have been settled: "Israel responds to rocks with bullets". But its not.


As you already said: The crux is that each faction does not acknowledge the rightfulness of the claim of the other faction on Palestine.