This from the California Tourism Board.

[onlinebiker]

You sound like a Republican.

Burning fossil fuels by humans is going beyond what the planet naturally absorbs. We are pouring gas on the fire.

And you blame the fossil fuel industry for that? I guess you’ll be buying a bicycle to replace all those cab rides and will soon be fitting out your house with solar panels.

Boru

Blame is Brian's thing.

Too bad Simon Cowell doesn't have a show called "America's Got Blame".

Brian could win.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And you blame the fossil fuel industry for that? I guess you’ll be buying a bicycle to replace all those cab rides and will soon be fitting out your house with solar panels.

Boru

Blame is Brian's thing.

Too bad Simon Cowell doesn't have a show called "America's Got Blame".

Brian could win.

I agree with him that climate change is a problem, but the extent of the damage done by fossil fuels is directly tied to consumer demand - if people didn't want petrol, no one could sell petrol.

It seems a little disingenuous of him to fix the blame on people who provide fossil fuels while giving a pass to people who use fossil fuels. I can't really call it good environmental stewardship when he calls a cab to take him to get a remote so he can change the television channel.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

Blame is Brian's thing.

Too bad Simon Cowell doesn't have a show called "America's Got Blame".

Brian could win.

I agree with him that climate change is a problem, but the extent of the damage done by fossil fuels is directly tied to consumer demand - if people didn't want petrol, no one could sell petrol.

It seems a little disingenuous of him to fix the blame on people who provide fossil fuels while giving a pass to people who use fossil fuels. I can't really call it good environmental stewardship when he calls a cab to take him to get a remote so he can change the television channel.

Boru

It's what a bitch does.


In their mind - if they recognise a problem and bitch about it - then they feel they aren't responsible - even though they are part of the problem...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"Look at it this way. In a hundred years nobody's going to care." Terminator.

[Anomalocaris]

Blame is Brian's thing.

Too bad Simon Cowell doesn't have a show called "America's Got Blame".

Brian could win.

I agree with him that climate change is a problem, but the extent of the damage done by fossil fuels is directly tied to consumer demand - if people didn't want petrol, no one could sell petrol.

It seems a little disingenuous of him to fix the blame on people who provide fossil fuels while giving a pass to people who use fossil fuels. I can't really call it good environmental stewardship when he calls a cab to take him to get a remote so he can change the television channel.

Boru

It’s just as highly disingenuous to say the major players of petroleum industry were no more than passive fulfiller of natural demand.   As with the cigarette industry the petroleum industry certainly Aggressively Sought ways to increased fossil fuel consumption Over the long run by actively distorting the perception of economic cost Associated with fossil fuel extraction, rode rough shod over Local and indigenous Rights, and subsidized The denial and obfuscation of the Implications of scientific research on the consequences of fossil fuel use.   They certainly actively magnified the impact of fossil fuel burning On The global climate considerably beyond what that would be if they had been mere passive and law abiding supplier or otherwise natural demand.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I agree with him that climate change is a problem, but the extent of the damage done by fossil fuels is directly tied to consumer demand - if people didn't want petrol, no one could sell petrol.

It seems a little disingenuous of him to fix the blame on people who provide fossil fuels while giving a pass to people who use fossil fuels. I can't really call it good environmental stewardship when he calls a cab to take him to get a remote so he can change the television channel.

Boru

It’s just as highly disingenuous to say the major players of petroleum industry were no more than passive fulfiller of natural demand.   As with the cigarette industry the petroleum industry certainly Aggressively Sought ways to increased fossil fuel consumption Over the long run by actively distorting the perception of economic cost Associated with fossil fuel extraction, rode rough shod over Local and indigenous Rights, and subsidized The denial and obfuscation of the Implications of scientific research on the consequences of fossil fuel use.   They certainly actively magnified the impact of fossil fuel burning On The global climate considerably beyond what that would be if they had been mere passive and law abiding supplier or otherwise natural demand.

Sorry, did I say that the petrocartels are made up of  nice people? Did I defend them? I’m pretty sure I didn’t. Their record of environmental damage is unparalleled and their record of fair dealing is non-existent.

But 37 wants to pin all of the blame for the current wildfire devastation solely on the producers of the product and none of the blame on the users of the product, and that’s just stupid. 

Want to hurt the fossil fuel industry? I’m all for it, but the way to do it isn’t to keep buying and burning fossil fuels. It’s like continuing to buy cocaine while railing about Colombian drug cartels.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

It’s just as highly disingenuous to say the major players of petroleum industry were no more than passive fulfiller of natural demand.   As with the cigarette industry the petroleum industry certainly Aggressively Sought ways to increased fossil fuel consumption Over the long run by actively distorting the perception of economic cost Associated with fossil fuel extraction, rode rough shod over Local and indigenous Rights, and subsidized The denial and obfuscation of the Implications of scientific research on the consequences of fossil fuel use.   They certainly actively magnified the impact of fossil fuel burning On The global climate considerably beyond what that would be if they had been mere passive and law abiding supplier or otherwise natural demand.

Sorry, did I say that the petrocartels are made up of  nice people? Did I defend them? I’m pretty sure I didn’t. Their record of environmental damage is unparalleled and their record of fair dealing is non-existent.

But 37 wants to pin all of the blame for the current wildfire devastation solely on the producers of the product and none of the blame on the users of the product, and that’s just stupid. 

Want to hurt the fossil fuel industry? I’m all for it, but the way to do it isn’t to keep buying and burning fossil fuels. It’s like continuing to buy cocaine while railing about Colombian drug cartels.

Boru

At least there are some nice guys in the cartel...


They will frequently appologize and give you a minute for prayer before they kill you.

Ya don't see that level of nice at Exxon.....

[Duty]

US wildfires fuelled by climate change, California governor says

[onlinebiker]

Yeah - Gavin Newsom is a real genius... He knows more about climate change than anyone else on the planet.

  Unless you don't think that way. Then he believes whatever you do. Just remember to vote for him and the ( D ) party.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Just to be clear, I’m not saying that climate change doesn’t make wildfires worse. It’s plain that it does. I’m saying that the fossil fuel industry doesn’t exist in a vacuum. 

Boru