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RE: No knock warrants
September 16, 2020 at 8:22 pm
(September 16, 2020 at 7:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: 12 mil is all it costs to murder someone? I thought I'd need more.
Normally, it is a lot more. You didn’t factor in the cop discount.
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RE: No knock warrants
September 16, 2020 at 8:25 pm
(September 16, 2020 at 7:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: 12 mil is all it costs to murder someone? I thought I'd need more.
Are you a city!? Them's some deep pockets. Doesn't bring back the human Swiss Cheese, though.
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 12:55 am
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I have aspirational goals.
Edwin Chandler got 8.5mil for wrongful arrest, resulting in 9 years in prison. Breonna Taylor was 26 years old. The dept has a 190mil a year budget, 45mil has been paid out over the last 12 years in 21 settlements. At 12mil a pop, I can see them being able to absorb extrajudicial killings into the indefinite future.
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 7:18 am
(September 16, 2020 at 4:29 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (September 16, 2020 at 3:53 pm)Fireball Wrote: Paging old #37...
BoT, I disagree with the concept of a no-knock warrant. Too much can and has gone wrong.
Wonder if the 12 mil that was awarded to the family of Breonna Taylor will make other police forces sit up and take notice. If nothing else, money will often get people's attention.
Only if the officers involved were made jointly and severally liable and their wages garnished to enaure payment was made.
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 7:34 am
(September 17, 2020 at 7:18 am)Nomad Wrote: (September 16, 2020 at 4:29 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Wonder if the 12 mil that was awarded to the family of Breonna Taylor will make other police forces sit up and take notice. If nothing else, money will often get people's attention.
Only if the officers involved were made jointly and severally liable and their wages garnished to enaure payment was made.
No knock warrants are issued by a judge. Officers don't generally decide on the fly to carry out a no knock. My musing was wondering if a municipality gets hit with a large payout resulting from a tragic outcome during a no knock if they would be more reluctant to request a no knock.
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 8:15 am
Unless they are coming in to rescue someone who's been kidnapped or something like that, then yes, they should probably knock before coming in.
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 8:33 am
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 9:33 am
(September 17, 2020 at 8:33 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Not wanting to intrude with facts, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant
What are you suggesting has been missed?
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 10:00 am
(September 16, 2020 at 11:02 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I have never thought no knock warrants were a good idea - except in cases of imminent threat of loss of life. Too many people die over a few thousand dollars worth of drugs getting flushed down a toilet.
There is another option -
Make the act of trying to flush evidence a felony multiplier. That is - if they catch you trying to flush evidence - you get double or triple whatever sentance you get.
If ifs and butts were candy and nuts.
The long term problem has always been our flooded market of firearms.
If you claim to love police, and everyone need police, but at the same time say that police should not be armed like our military, but you advocate selling firearms to everyone as long as they have no record, and the firearm industry sells to police as well, that is a problem.
No knock warrants ARE BAD, but also understandable because police cant afford to risk harm if they think the warrant is of potentially armed people.
How about we stop handing out firearms like candy? If we do that, then police wouldn't have to go into every situation assuming they need to be armed like RAMBO. Then society wouldn't have to fear police either.
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RE: No knock warrants
September 17, 2020 at 10:04 am
(September 17, 2020 at 10:00 am)Brian37 Wrote: (September 16, 2020 at 11:02 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I have never thought no knock warrants were a good idea - except in cases of imminent threat of loss of life. Too many people die over a few thousand dollars worth of drugs getting flushed down a toilet.
There is another option -
Make the act of trying to flush evidence a felony multiplier. That is - if they catch you trying to flush evidence - you get double or triple whatever sentance you get.
If ifs and butts were candy and nuts.
The long term problem has always been our flooded market of firearms.
If you claim to love police, and everyone need police, but at the same time say that police should not be armed like our military, but you advocate selling firearms to everyone as long as they have no record, and the firearm industry sells to police as well, that is a problem.
No knock warrants ARE BAD, but also understandable because police cant afford to risk harm if they think the warrant is of potentially armed people.
How about we stop handing out firearms like candy? If we do that, then police wouldn't have to go into every situation assuming they need to be armed like RAMBO. Then society wouldn't have to fear police either.
A flooded gun market has absolutely nothing to do with flushing drugs, no-knock warrants, or the Breonna Taylor case.
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