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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 1:50 pm
(February 1, 2021 at 1:32 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: (February 1, 2021 at 12:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If your solution to an unruly nine year old girl is to pepper spray her, you shouldn't be a cop in the first place.
Fucking disgusting.
Boru
My issues with this solution would had started at handcuffing a 9y old already.  Who was she? Hit-Girl?
Actually, I can understand (though not agree with) the handcuffing - she was struggling and kicking at the cops, and it’s not unreasonable to assume she could have injured herself. She was traumatized and distraught.
But even the handcuffing could have been avoided if a social worker had been sent out instead of cops - you know, maybe someone who has experience in dealing with emotionally trouble children instead of a goon squad.
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 1:52 pm
(February 1, 2021 at 1:50 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: But teaching your kids to fear the po-po always goes well....
Victim blaming. Nice.
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 1:53 pm
(February 1, 2021 at 1:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 1, 2021 at 1:50 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: But teaching your kids to fear the po-po always goes well....
Victim blaming. Nice.
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Not victim blaming.
Parents of victim blaming.
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 1:56 pm
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(February 1, 2021 at 1:53 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 1, 2021 at 1:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Victim blaming. Nice.
Boru
Not victim blaming.
Parents of victim blaming.
It comes to the same thing. You’re saying that if the girl hadn’t been afraid of the police, she wouldn’t have been pepper sprayed. Try not to lose sight of the facts - half a dozen cops made the decision to cuff and mace a nine year old girl. Can you at least acknowledge that they’re the ones at fault?
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 2:02 pm
(February 1, 2021 at 1:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 1, 2021 at 1:53 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Not victim blaming.
Parents of victim blaming.
It comes to the same thing. You’re saying that if the girl hadn’t been afraid of the police, she wouldn’t have been pepper sprayed. Try not to lose sight of the facts - half a dozen cops made the decision to cuff and mace a nine year old girl. Can you at least acknowledge that they’re the ones at fault?
Boru
You act as if this happened in a vacuum.
....
Sure the cops did an absolute bonehead, unforgivable thing.
It was in response to a kid who had been trained to act that way..
Will you acknowledge that?
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm
(February 1, 2021 at 2:02 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 1, 2021 at 1:56 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It comes to the same thing. You’re saying that if the girl hadn’t been afraid of the police, she wouldn’t have been pepper sprayed. Try not to lose sight of the facts - half a dozen cops made the decision to cuff and mace a nine year old girl. Can you at least acknowledge that they’re the ones at fault?
Boru
You act as if this happened in a vacuum.
....
Sure the cops did an absolute bonehead, unforgivable thing.
It was in response to a kid who had been trained to act that way..
Will you acknowledge that?
I can’t acknowledge that because I don’t know it to be true. And neither do you. Do you have some special insight into the dynamics of this particular family, or are you making a blanket statement based on her skin tone?
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm
There is no justification. Especially with a half dozen cops on scene and no one stood up to be a voice of reason. That's a mob. A small mob, but a mob nonetheless.
You have to hope one of them at least had a flicker of "this is not okay" going through their mind.
I imagine homelife is swell with this crew.
There should be some collecting of badges and whoever is in charge should be soon looking for a job elsewhere.
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 2:12 pm
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(February 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (February 1, 2021 at 2:02 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You act as if this happened in a vacuum.
....
Sure the cops did an absolute bonehead, unforgivable thing.
It was in response to a kid who had been trained to act that way..
Will you acknowledge that?
I can’t acknowledge that because I don’t know it to be true. And neither do you. Do you have some special insight into the dynamics of this particular family, or are you making a blanket statement based on her skin tone?
Boru
I am basing it on her reaction.
As a kid - I was her age during the riots in the late 60's - and was taught by my dad - DO NOT RESIST COPS.... Very simply you WILL lose. No if. You WILL lose. The number of lumps on your head and body are inversely proportional to how much you resist.
...
If her parents didn't teach her the same - they are morons. They should have been maced - not the poor kid.
(February 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: There is no justification. Especially with a half dozen cops on scene and no one stood up to be a voice of reason. That's a mob. A small mob, but a mob nonetheless.
You have to hope one of them at least had a flicker of "this is not okay" going through their mind.
I imagine homelife is swell with this crew.
There should be some collecting of badges and whoever is in charge should be soon looking for a job elsewhere.
In some areas unjustified use of force can be prosecuted as assault. Dunno in this jurisdiction....
Probably will be if allowable.
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 2:53 pm
(February 1, 2021 at 2:12 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (February 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I can’t acknowledge that because I don’t know it to be true. And neither do you. Do you have some special insight into the dynamics of this particular family, or are you making a blanket statement based on her skin tone?
Boru
I am basing it on her reaction.
As a kid - I was her age during the riots in the late 60's - and was taught by my dad - DO NOT RESIST COPS.... Very simply you WILL lose. No if. You WILL lose. The number of lumps on your head and body are inversely proportional to how much you resist.
...
If her parents didn't teach her the same - they are morons. They should have been maced - not the poor kid.
(February 1, 2021 at 2:06 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: There is no justification. Especially with a half dozen cops on scene and no one stood up to be a voice of reason. That's a mob. A small mob, but a mob nonetheless.
You have to hope one of them at least had a flicker of "this is not okay" going through their mind.
I imagine homelife is swell with this crew.
There should be some collecting of badges and whoever is in charge should be soon looking for a job elsewhere.
In some areas unjustified use of force can be prosecuted as assault. Dunno in this jurisdiction....
Probably will be if allowable.
The girl was emotionally troubled before the cops ever showed up. You’re making an unwarranted assumption.
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RE: Please Justify This Police Action For Me
February 1, 2021 at 3:00 pm
Great theory. Police will brutalize children, therefore parents are assholes. Police brutalizing children is like gravity, after all. Absolutely nothing that we can do about it.
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