Women's Rights

[Huggy Bear]

Also worth noting, some women, even cisgender women, are sterile. Doesn’t make them any less of a woman.

My mother had a hysterectomy in 1968 as part of treating her ovarian cancer. The logical conclusion of Huggy's ign'ant beliefs is that my mother is less of a woman.

That's something he surely would not say to a man's face IRL.

Why would that be the "logical conclusion" when a trans "woman" is incapable of getting ovarian cancer?

Y'all can't even define what a woman is... do you also reject the dictionary definition?

[no one]

Why the fuck do you care?

Can't people just live their own lives?

Are you incapable of staying in your own lane?

You take your freedom to be imbecilic, narrow minded, incel, quiet seriously.
Perhaps, maybe, allow others to have their freedom in their serious pursuit of their OWN damn happiness?



You are no different than members of the kkk, taliban, nazis, or  any other mindless rabble of herd following, hate filled shitbags.

[Rev. Rye]

A male who lacks the one thing you said literally defines a male, to the extent that you said any differences in anything else in no way alters whether or not one is male or female.

The article you linked to is entirely about male infertility. Lose of the sperm producing function does not mean one ceases to be of the kind that would produce sperm in the absence of disorder. A post-menapausal woman is still female, yes?

And here's another case that's even stranger: some women are actually born with testes and XY chromosomes. And they're not exactly transgender; they're something stranger. Here's one of those women, Eden Atwood, telling her story, and you'd never know about it unless she explained it to you.




Her condition is Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. Basically, well, I'll let Gregory House explain it.



Admittedly:

• his terminology is ancient, 
  
• he's not quite accurate in claiming we all start out as females (it's more "undifferentiated" than "female")
  
• the odds are closer to somewhere between 1 in 20,000 to 1 in 99,000. [Somewhere between 80,000 and 400,000 cases worldwide.]
  
• Don't treat people with CAIS the way House does. Unless, of course, you actually are going to remove those testes, and even then, don't be as much of a cock as he is.
  

But it's close enough of an accurate explanation for a layman.

Eden Atwood has XY Chromosomes, she was born with testes, and despite having a lot of testosterone coursing through her veins, her body can do fuck-all with it because her androgen receptors don't work. She may be technically XY, but she can never be a man. There are treatments, but actually making those androgen receptors work is proving impossible. The treatments available today all focus on making the person in question more feminine. And even then, she'll never produce eggs because the closest thing she ever had were actually testes, and the only times ovary transplants have ever worked are between identical twins (and even on the off chance that she did have one, said identical twin would have the same condition, thus defeating the whole purpose.)

[Ravenshire]

The article you linked to is entirely about male infertility. Lose of the sperm producing function does not mean one ceases to be of the kind that would produce sperm in the absence of disorder. A post-menapausal woman is still female, yes?

And here's another case that's even stranger: some women are actually born with testes and XY chromosomes. And they're not exactly transgender; they're something stranger. Here's one of those women, Eden Atwood, telling her story, and you'd never know about it unless she explained it to you.




Her condition is Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. Basically, well, I'll let Gregory House explain it.



Admittedly:

• his terminology is ancient, 
  
• he's not quite accurate in claiming we all start out as females (it's more "undifferentiated" than "female")
  
• the odds are closer to somewhere between 1 in 20,000 to 1 in 99,000. [Somewhere between 80,000 and 400,000 cases worldwide.]
  
• Don't treat people with CAIS the way House does. Unless, of course, you actually are going to remove those testes, and even then, don't be as much of a cock as he is.
  

But it's close enough of an accurate explanation for a layman.

Eden Atwood has XY Chromosomes, she was born with testes, and despite having a lot of testosterone coursing through her veins, her body can do fuck-all with it because her androgen receptors don't work. She may be technically XY, but she can never be a man. There are treatments, but actually making those androgen receptors work is proving impossible. The treatments available today all focus on making the person in question more feminine. And even then, she'll never produce eggs because the closest thing she ever had were actually testes, and the only times ovary transplants have ever worked are between identical twins (and even on the off chance that she did have one, said identical twin would have the same condition, thus defeating the whole purpose.)

When medicine and bigotry collide, the medicine seems to always be ignored in favor of the bigotry. If the bigots even learned, they'd quite being bigots.

[The Architect Of Fate]

The article you linked to is entirely about male infertility. Lose of the sperm producing function does not mean one ceases to be of the kind that would produce sperm in the absence of disorder. A post-menapausal woman is still female, yes?

Nonetheless if a man were to no longer produce sperm he's still a man. Reproduction is not the primary definer of any group.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Why would that be the "logical conclusion" when a trans "woman" is incapable of getting ovarian cancer?

And you are missing the point. A woman without a uterus is still a woman so having a uterus is not needed to be a woman.

Y'all can't even define what a woman is... do you also reject the dictionary definition?

We already did moron. Also, we wouldn't even need another definition to point out that the dictionary one is simplistic and incomplete.


You again demonstrate that you are the one who needs to sit down and STFU.

[Thumpalumpacus]

My mother had a hysterectomy in 1968 as part of treating her ovarian cancer. The logical conclusion of Huggy's ign'ant beliefs is that my mother is less of a woman.

That's something he surely would not say to a man's face IRL.

Why would that be the "logical conclusion" when a trans "woman" is incapable of getting ovarian cancer?

Y'all can't even define what a woman is... do you also reject the dictionary definition?

You apparently don't understand that I'm not arguing about trans women, but criticizing your devaluation of women.

You never were the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but you seem to have lost a lumen or two.

[The Architect Of Fate]

He is also wrong as we have defined women and even if we had not you can say definition A is incomplete or wrong without requiring an alternative definition. This Non-Sequitur. And the dictionary definition as has been shown multiple times in this thread is insufficient and simplistic.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Why the fuck do you care?

Can't people just live their own lives?

Are you incapable of staying in your own lane?

You take your freedom to be imbecilic, narrow minded, incel, quiet seriously.
Perhaps, maybe, allow others to have their freedom in their serious pursuit of their OWN damn happiness?



You are no different than members of the kkk, taliban, nazis, or  any other mindless rabble of herd following, hate filled shitbags.

Maybe it’s just me, but I can’t seem to gin up any bile against people who choose to live their lives differently from how I live mine.

Boru

[arewethereyet]

We have, in this thread, seen the big three who are most afraid of anyone with a different lifestyle. But all they can use to try to convince others to think the same is to throw the whole LGBT+ population into the molester of children and women pile. There's no other reason to be so hateful and fearful so they have to try to tug at emotion, fear, and false information.

I still would like to know how a cat with three legs has a damn thing to do with gender identification. Seems when you have to reach that damn far you are likely to fall on your face.