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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:34 pm
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states we all have the absolute right of Freedom of Conscience.
We've heard all your bullshit more times than you can count.
We REJECT it. As the church says, was are still saved.
You're no Thomas of Aquinas, bud. You're wasting your time.
Go get an education. Come back in 20 years.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:36 pm
(August 18, 2023 at 7:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 18, 2023 at 6:55 pm)Barry Wrote: Hi Boru
God can do anything, by definition.
Cheers Barry
Can God kill himself?
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Haha
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:37 pm
I’m still waiting for the argument about ‘good’ existing…
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:38 pm
(August 18, 2023 at 7:36 pm)Barry Wrote: (August 18, 2023 at 7:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Can God kill himself?
Boru
Haha
Cheers Barry
No ‘haha’. It’s a legitimate question.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:38 pm
(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: So how did the world begin?
My answer is that science proves nothing can be created from nothing in our material world, so the only explanation is that something external created the world. And that is what we call God.
Science did explain that the world was created by particles from exploded stars.
But if you are talking about the universe then the universe always existed, even before the big bang. Before the big bang universe was in a state of very hot and dense matter that then started expanding.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:38 pm
(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: Hi,
I’ve just joined this forum.
I see a lot of discussion about religion and Jesus and being saved. I think that in a forum for atheists the most important question is “Does God exist?”. Jesus Christ is irrelevant if he isn’t the Son of God. And all other religious faiths are meaningless if our world occurred by accident with no creator God.
So how did the world begin?
My answer is that science proves nothing can be created from nothing in our material world, so the only explanation is that something external created the world. And that is what we call God. The problem for humankind is that they don’t want to feel responsible to God, despite knowing in their hearts God exists.
Cheers Barry
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:42 pm
(August 18, 2023 at 7:34 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The Catechism of the Catholic Church states we all have the absolute right of Freedom of Conscience.
We've heard all your bullshit more times than you can count.
We REJECT it. As the church says, was are still saved.
You're no Thomas of Aquinas, bud. You're wasting your time.
Go get an education. Come back in 20 years.
Hi BB
if you are so dismissive and I am so wrong, why are you “wasting your time” responding to me and even being on this forum. If you don’t believe in God and life after death, your time is precious. Use it trying to help someone more worthy than me, or if that is not of interest go for a walk, smell the flowers, that randomly grew on our random plant.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:43 pm
(August 18, 2023 at 7:38 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: So how did the world begin?
My answer is that science proves nothing can be created from nothing in our material world, so the only explanation is that something external created the world. And that is what we call God.
Science did explain that the world was created by particles from exploded stars.
But if you are talking about the universe then the universe always existed, even before the big bang. Before the big bang universe was in a state of very hot and dense matter that then started expanding.
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:44 pm
(August 18, 2023 at 7:42 pm)Barry Wrote: (August 18, 2023 at 7:34 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The Catechism of the Catholic Church states we all have the absolute right of Freedom of Conscience.
We've heard all your bullshit more times than you can count.
We REJECT it. As the church says, was are still saved.
You're no Thomas of Aquinas, bud. You're wasting your time.
Go get an education. Come back in 20 years.
Hi BB
if you are so dismissive and I am so wrong, why are you “wasting your time” responding to me and even being on this forum. If you don’t believe in God and life after death, your time is precious. Use it trying to help someone more worthy than me, or if that is not of interest go for a walk, smell the flowers, that randomly grew on our random plant.
Cheers Barry
If you are so dismissive and I am so wrong, why are you “wasting your time” responding to me and even being on this forum. If you don’t believe in FSM and life after death, your time is precious. Use it trying to help someone more worthy than me, or if that is not of interest go for a walk, smell the flowers, that randomly grew on our random plant.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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RE: Good exists - a Catholic comments
August 18, 2023 at 7:45 pm
Hi Fake
A Catholic priest discovered the Big Bang. If the universe always existed, from infinity, how did we ever reach the present.
Cheers Barry
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