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RE: Abortion and Population
December 10, 2023 at 10:09 am
(December 10, 2023 at 5:46 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (December 10, 2023 at 5:39 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Ectopic pregnancy, you ignorant fuck. Lack of access to safe legal abortion kills at least twice as many people as pro-choice. /Thread.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectopic_pregnancy
Quote:The risk of death among those in the developed world is between 0.1 and 0.3 percent When you have an ectopic pregnancy and are denied medical intervention...let us know how that works out for ya as you are bleeding to death internally.
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 10, 2023 at 10:39 am
(December 10, 2023 at 5:37 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (December 10, 2023 at 1:55 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: And people wonder why members of AF are rude. Let me guess, when a theist says something like this he is not rude, but when an atheist responds he is considered rude.
Pro-choicers support genocide. It's everyone's moral obligation to be rude to you. No thy dont. I am pro choice and i do not support genocide.
You are a liar.
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 10, 2023 at 10:42 am
(December 10, 2023 at 1:10 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (December 9, 2023 at 5:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Abortion bans don't save babies. They kill women.
If a woman died while trying to kill an innocent human being that didn't give consent to be put in her body then she deserved it. What does the doctor deserve who actually performs the abortion? A cruel death?
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 10, 2023 at 10:51 am
Be honest Dmitry, on its way to deliver you, the stork hit every branch on the stupid tree, twice, didn't she?
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 11, 2023 at 8:36 am
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2023 at 8:36 am by Fake Messiah.)
What actually affects the human population negatively is religious thinking. First, we have religious wars that kill countless people even now in Palestine and in Ukraine where Putin is on a holy mission to destroy the devil and sin.
Then we have the denial of medicine where people are told that god will heal them and that they don't need doctors. And turning diseases into taboos, like it is with syphilis and AIDS, making it difficult for a cure to be developed and distributed.
Then some religions like Islam encourage marriages between close cousins which creates unhealthy people.
But, not surprisingly, SimpleCaveman is not worried about religion because he is not really interested in the human population but he is driven by misogyny which is another way religion has a negative impact on the human population.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 11, 2023 at 8:44 am
(December 11, 2023 at 8:36 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: What actually affects the human population negatively is religious thinking. First, we have religious wars that kill countless people even now in Palestine and in Ukraine where Putin is on a holy mission to destroy the devil and sin.
Putin may have wrapped his Ukrainian invasion in some religious rhetoric, but it certainly is not a war caused by religion. His intent is to reunite the Tsarist empire.
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 11, 2023 at 8:58 am
Putin is using religion to help him in his bloodthirsty cause. Besides, what was Tzar in Russia if not god appointed leader.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 11, 2023 at 10:37 am
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2023 at 10:39 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(December 11, 2023 at 8:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Putin is using religion to help him in his bloodthirsty cause. Besides, what was Tzar in Russia if not god appointed leader.
There's a couple of points here:
1) Using religion as a "justification" is, from the Russian perspective, a very minor thing. This war is much more about "Make Russia Great Again" followed by the false allegations of Ukrainian naziism. Calling this a "religious" war is misleading.
2) There's a difference between wanting to reconstruct Tsarist Russia's geography and Putin wanting to be a Tsar or believing himself to be appointed by god.
When we're criticizing religion, there's enough true stuff to go on that gilding the lily like this makes it appear as if the case is weak. There's no need to exaggerate anything -- the truth is horrific enough.
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 11, 2023 at 10:44 am
(December 11, 2023 at 10:37 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (December 11, 2023 at 8:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Putin is using religion to help him in his bloodthirsty cause. Besides, what was Tzar in Russia if not god appointed leader.
There's a couple of points here:
1) Using religion as a "justification" is, from the Russian perspective, a very minor thing. This war is much more about "Make Russia Great Again" followed by the false allegations of Ukrainian naziism. Calling this a "religious" war is misleading.
2) There's a difference between wanting to reconstruct Tsarist Russia's geography and Putin wanting to be a Tsar or believing himself to be appointed by god.
When we're criticizing religion, there's enough true stuff to go on that gilding the lily like this makes it appear as if the case is weak. There's no need to exaggerate anything -- the truth is horrific enough.
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RE: Abortion and Population
December 11, 2023 at 11:34 am
Not according to the forced birthers. They can make it even shittier.
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