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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 4:14 pm
(August 24, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 3:55 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Fuck, my irony-o-meter!!!!! IT BURNS.
I've never expected a sensible answer from you, and you still prove my rational thinking.
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I think that's the first time you've ever made me laugh out loud, and you managed to do it twice in a row! I like this new Godschild, keep being hilarious!!
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 4:16 pm
(August 24, 2015 at 3:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 23, 2015 at 11:05 pm)ForsakenHeretic Wrote: Ok first So we can'tcan't speculate about what would the Brooklyn brawler be as WWF champion cause hey it could never have happened. Second what do you mean they wouldn't exist just cause Thomas Edison died doesn't mean the lightbulb doesn't exist anymore if he already created it.
In the first place Edison did not create the light bulb, he invented it from existing materials and Edison being the real inventor of the light bulb is in dispute. He did perfect it but that was by fooling the public until he achieved a bulb that lasted for more than a few minutes/hours. God on the other hand created all things and He maintains them, without Him they would melt away ie. the universe would fall apart without God maintaining it.
I could speculate My favorite football team will win all twelve of it's regular season games, but a rational look at their opponents and it's just not going to happen. To speculate about something that's not going to happen or didn't happen is a waste of time.
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Not a very competent builder if he made smethign that's going to fall apart if he leaves it alone. Granted anything we build needs maintenance from time to time too, but we're not perfect like he presumably is.
Hypotheticals are fun. They can also teach people things. Like if you think about how bad things would get is an evil person was in charge, and whatever you come up with isn't much worse than the way your god runs things, your god may be evil.
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 4:50 pm
(August 24, 2015 at 4:14 pm)Iroscato Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've never expected a sensible answer from you, and you still prove my rational thinking.
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I think that's the first time you've ever made me laugh out loud, and you managed to do it twice in a row! I like this new Godschild, keep being hilarious!!
Laughing at this truth about yourself is sad, real sad.
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 4:54 pm
(August 24, 2015 at 4:16 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 3:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: In the first place Edison did not create the light bulb, he invented it from existing materials and Edison being the real inventor of the light bulb is in dispute. He did perfect it but that was by fooling the public until he achieved a bulb that lasted for more than a few minutes/hours. God on the other hand created all things and He maintains them, without Him they would melt away ie. the universe would fall apart without God maintaining it.
I could speculate My favorite football team will win all twelve of it's regular season games, but a rational look at their opponents and it's just not going to happen. To speculate about something that's not going to happen or didn't happen is a waste of time.
GC
Not a very competent builder if he made smethign that's going to fall apart if he leaves it alone. Granted anything we build needs maintenance from time to time too, but we're not perfect like he presumably is.
Hypotheticals are fun. They can also teach people things. Like if you think about how bad things would get is an evil person was in charge, and whatever you come up with isn't much worse than the way your god runs things, your god may be evil.
I'm all for having fun, and sometimes that fun doesn't accomplish much, but to speculate on the impossible is a complete waste of time.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 5:02 pm
(August 23, 2015 at 9:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 23, 2015 at 5:48 pm)ForsakenHeretic Wrote: But think about it while I don't think Satan is evil while he is the most powerful being in the universe with God out of the picture. He is not Omnipotent he could still be overthrown and replaced with somebody like Gabriel or Micheal I believe in Revelations it says Gabriel will fight Satan in a one on one duel so he may be just a bit more powerful than a Archangel.
Do you even know who and what Satan was? What makes you think that Satan can defeat the omniscient God when Satan as you said isn't omniscient, wouldn't it make sense that God would know Satan's ever move even before he did?
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 6:13 pm
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(August 23, 2015 at 9:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 23, 2015 at 5:48 pm)ForsakenHeretic Wrote: But think about it while I don't think Satan is evil while he is the most powerful being in the universe with God out of the picture. He is not Omnipotent he could still be overthrown and replaced with somebody like Gabriel or Micheal I believe in Revelations it says Gabriel will fight Satan in a one on one duel so he may be just a bit more powerful than a Archangel.
Do you even know who and what Satan was? What makes you think that Satan can defeat the omniscient God when Satan as you said isn't omniscient, wouldn't it make sense that God would know Satan's ever move even before he did?
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Even stranger, Why does he even exist? Shouldn't the all knowing god have known what trouble he'd cause?
(August 24, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (August 23, 2015 at 9:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: Do you even know who and what Satan was? What makes you think that Satan can defeat the omniscient God when Satan as you said isn't omniscient, wouldn't it make sense that God would know Satan's ever move even before he did?
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 7:37 pm
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 9:20 pm
(August 24, 2015 at 6:13 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: (August 23, 2015 at 9:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: Do you even know who and what Satan was? What makes you think that Satan can defeat the omniscient God when Satan as you said isn't omniscient, wouldn't it make sense that God would know Satan's ever move even before he did?
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Even stranger, Why does he even exist? Shouldn't the all knowing god have known what trouble he'd cause?
He has always existed, there's not be a moment without Him. Satan and man have caused all the problems, Satan rebelled and then tempted man to rebel.
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 9:36 pm
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No, pretty sure we can blame Yahweh for setting up a flawed system. He either created flawed creatures when he created Humans, or being perfect doesn't exclude you from making mistakes.
It's like when you see parents raising kids. The more kids they have that are screw-ups, the more you should consider it the parent's fault. Not the kids.
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RE: What if Satan won?
August 24, 2015 at 9:45 pm
(August 24, 2015 at 9:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 24, 2015 at 6:13 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Even stranger, Why does he even exist? Shouldn't the all knowing god have known what trouble he'd cause?
He has always existed, there's not be a moment without Him. Satan and man have caused all the problems, Satan rebelled and then tempted man to rebel.
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And god can't poof him away or render him powerless because.....
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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