(October 9, 2015 at 10:22 am)alpha male Wrote:

(October 8, 2015 at 3:49 pm)dyresand Wrote: A being called yaweh loves us presumably "loves" us. And if we do not accept a his son/him dying we go to hell? 
So.. he loves us... and he is willing to let us burn for eternity for not accepting someone dying... what the fuck.

The way you guys view this is amazing.

By analogy, it's as if you were convicted of a crime, didn't ask the governor for a pardon, then complained that you're in jail just because you didn't get a pardon. No, you're in jail for the crime.

What crime? According to most Christians, we're going to hell not because of anything we did but because of the nature we inherited from Adam and Eve ...

(October 9, 2015 at 12:33 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 11:39 am)Stimbo Wrote: Because our 'crimes' are not asking for forgiveness for being born into 'original sin'. There is no age of accountability in this equation.

Of course there is. Until the age of accountability, sin is covered. After that age is reached, everyone has their own sins to account for. You know that there are sins in the Bible other than "not asking for forgiveness," so this argument is a completely disingenuous attempt to save face.

What face am I trying to save, exactly? Ok, so let's accept that the 'sin of Adam' is covered by AoA and that we're speaking of other sins. You're still left with the inconvenience of sin as a transgression against the prison governor. Remove the governor, remove the basis for sin. He's the one with the problem against what the inmates get up to. It's like the old joke about the guy complaining about all the hardcore porn that comes through his door; when his neighbour says that he's never had that problem, the guy says, "Yes, but you don't subscribe."

(October 9, 2015 at 12:38 pm)Irrational Wrote: What crime? According to most Christians, we're going to hell not because of anything we did but because of the nature we inherited from Adam and Eve ...

Can you support that claim?

(October 9, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What face am I trying to save, exactly? Ok, so let's accept that the 'sin of Adam' is covered by AoA and that we're speaking of other sins. You're still left with the inconvenience of sin as a transgression against the prison governor. Remove the governor, remove the basis for sin. He's the one with the problem against what the inmates get up to. It's like the old joke about the guy complaining about all the hardcore porn that comes through his door; when his neighbour says that he's never had that problem, the guy says, "Yes, but you don't subscribe."

Yes, a prisoner can argue that he's only in prison because there were laws to be broken, and without the law, there would be no basis for prison. He's not going very far with that argument.

Ok, you have the floor. What crimes are worth the sentence of eternal damnation?

(October 9, 2015 at 11:56 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 11:30 am)KUSA Wrote: Drippy never had AIDS. He made that shit up to help him roll as a troll.

If that's the case, it really pisses me off. 

I'm literally leaving right this moment to drive an AIDS patient to a doctor's appointment, as part of volunteer work I do with the local AIDS charity organization.

I'll be back in a couple of hours, perhaps less.

Sick sonofabitch, if he used pretendending he has AIDS just to make a point.

get over yourself you self righteous b-hole. AIDS and HIV are two separate things. AIDS Describes an immune deficiency that most of the time is a direct result of advanced HIV infection. But, is not always the case. In 1990 whatever when I was diagnoised with AIDS they only looked at my white cell count and told me it was very low, Which is AIDS. So I was given an HIV test and that came back negative. Before my cancer scare I thought I might have been a "Super controller" (If your not familiar with the term with all you AIDS work, that is someone who is 'healed of AIDS with no outside help.)

But given all the recent testing I have had and my recent spike in white cells it seems that my body had issue regulating my white cell count. Because after a year and series of scans tests and several very invasive proceedures to procure biopsy material (which also uncovered my burst/now scared over appendix) I have been found cancer free. Even though I show all the warning signs of that. My hematologist told me it was very likely my AIDS Experience and My Cancer Experience stems from the same root cause. which they can not identify.

In my very first thread I make mention of my AIDS Experience, and have consistently backed this story every time it has been challenged. Why? Not to prove a point, but because it is true. Because this is apart of how God had worked in my life and apart of my foundation for my beliefs. therefore it is required of me to share and explain when ever asked.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-11671-page-14.html post 135

... what's a b-hole?

(October 9, 2015 at 12:52 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 12:38 pm)Irrational Wrote: What crime? According to most Christians, we're going to hell not because of anything we did but because of the nature we inherited from Adam and Eve ...

Can you support that claim?

Look up the doctrine of original sin. This isn't an uncommon belief among Christians.

(October 9, 2015 at 1:03 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 9, 2015 at 11:56 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: If that's the case, it really pisses me off. 

I'm literally leaving right this moment to drive an AIDS patient to a doctor's appointment, as part of volunteer work I do with the local AIDS charity organization.

I'll be back in a couple of hours, perhaps less.

Sick sonofabitch, if he used pretendending he has AIDS just to make a point.

get over yourself you self righteous b-hole. JESUS and JESUS are two separate things. JESUS Describes an JESUS that most of the time is a direct result of advanced JESUS infection. But, is not always the case. In 1990 whatever when I was diagnoised with JESUS they only looked at my JESUS and told me it was very low, Which is JESUS. So I was given an JESUS test and that came back negative. Before my JESUS scare I thought I might have been a "JESUS" (If your not familiar with the term with all you JESUS work, that is someone who is 'healed of JESUS with no outside help.)

But given all the JESUS I have had and my recent spike in JESUS it seems that my body had issue regulating my JESUS. Because after a year and series of JESUS and several JESUS (which also uncovered my JESUS) I have been found JESUS free. Even though I show all the warning signs of that. My JESUS told me it was very likely my JESUS Experience and My JESUS Experience stems from the same root cause. which they can not identify.

In my very first thread I make mention of my JESUS Experience, and have consistently backed this story every time it has been challenged. Why? Not to prove a point, but because it is true. Because this is apart of how God had worked in my life and apart of my foundation for my beliefs. therefore it is required of me to share and explain when ever asked.

JESUS post 135

Edited for science.

Still lying for christ?  I can't see the harm, carry on.