(October 12, 2015 at 7:20 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: So, what you REALLY want is a professional psychologist or psychiatrist who is a Theist, who will objectively pat your hand and say "well of COURSE you're in contact with god, dear!".
I'm not even sure you'll find a minister who will do that.  

If you're truly interested in truth, and you believe your experience to be truth, then trust it.  Surely god won't leave you hanging without anything to give to a professional assessor.  
If you really believe it's god, then put it out there to a professional, not to a bunch of atheists that you knew you couldn't convince before you even signed up.
Take your experience to a psychiatrist, they will perform tests, you'll have your facts.  If a non-biased professional agrees with you, then you really have something.

But if you're looking for bias before you even get started, then you don't trust that this is god.  Simple as that.

i could find a professional who believes in God and surely i can find a minister who believes in God but why should i seek one out to get some kind of approval from anyone  are you going to seek out a minister or psychologist to get approval for your atheist views and adjust your beliefs based on their opinions ?  im not interested in convincing anyone im just being myself being honest and giving my true opinions on different topics here .

Capitalizing certain letters would make your honest posts easier to read.

Not being pedantic or anything or mean... and I'm sorry if I ever offend you or come across as rude, I'm a nice guy, honestly.

All you have to do is press Shift+ the letter you want to capitalize and it reads much better.

Thanks,

Evie

(October 12, 2015 at 7:28 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 7:17 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: i dont hear voices

But you had no problem attributing the voices Evie heard to the possibility it was a god. Why the rolling eyes emote?

And how do you know you're not just hearing voices?

rolling eye emote because i never said i heard voices , and i just said that the voices evie heard could have been from God or it could have been a result of mental illness but since she is an atheist the possibility it was God was not an option . you hear with your ears noises and sounds if its a thought it does not make an audible sound .

Auditory hallucinations exist. If you hear an audible sound it doesn't mean it's really there.

Why the fuck would the person I was talking to (I won't mention their name to protect their identity of course) talk over themselves in their voice? And why would that be a message from God?

The private message only known to me was clearly my own mind. I had clearly created it... not "God" for fucks sake...

Seriously anyone who thinks they can hear God's voice needs medical help.

(October 12, 2015 at 7:50 pm)Evie Wrote: Auditory hallucinations exist. If you hear an audible sound it doesn't mean it's really there.

Why the fuck would the person I was talking to (I won't mention their name to protect their identity of course) talk over themselves in their voice? And why would that be a message from God?

The private message only known to me was clearly my own mind. I had clearly created it... not "God" for fucks sake...

Seriously anyone who thinks they can hear God's voice needs medical help.

it also doesnt mean its not from God you just interpret it as being the result of mental illness because that or a physical problem were the only options your mind had the only options you allowed it to have . i dont think any person is capable of talking over themselves or people would do this all the time . maybe God wanted to open your mind a little bit to the possibility of reality outside the box you had created anyways if so it didnt work . i hope the meds you are on has fixed the problem of hearing voices if so thats very good and im happy for you that mustve been it then .

(October 12, 2015 at 7:32 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 7:20 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: So, what you REALLY want is a professional psychologist or psychiatrist who is a Theist, who will objectively pat your hand and say "well of COURSE you're in contact with god, dear!".
I'm not even sure you'll find a minister who will do that.  

If you're truly interested in truth, and you believe your experience to be truth, then trust it.  Surely god won't leave you hanging without anything to give to a professional assessor.  
If you really believe it's god, then put it out there to a professional, not to a bunch of atheists that you knew you couldn't convince before you even signed up.
Take your experience to a psychiatrist, they will perform tests, you'll have your facts.  If a non-biased professional agrees with you, then you really have something.

But if you're looking for bias before you even get started, then you don't trust that this is god.  Simple as that.

i could find a professional who believes in God and surely i can find a minister who believes in God but why should i seek one out to get some kind of approval from anyone  are you going to seek out a minister or psychologist to get approval for your atheist views and adjust your beliefs based on their opinions ?  im not interested in convincing anyone im just being myself being honest and giving my true opinions on different topics here .

You wrote: 
post #141
if a psychiatrist does not believe in God that limits the ability to accurately diagnose someone just like a doctor who excludes  all scientific discovery within the last 50 years cannot make an accurate diagnosis because his education is incomplete.

post #142
 i know that God exists i have witnessed proof and any who lacks that proof and does not know about other possibilities i believe cannot possibly make an accurate diagnosis because they are lacking that information .

post #144
 since i know that God does exist i would not want to go to someone who did not have that proof . and so because of their lack of proof they do not believe that it is a possibility

Evie's right.  Your posts are very difficult to read.
When you first came on here you stated that you're not interested in convincing anyone.   
Now you're beating a dead horse about needing a psychiatrist who shares your world view.
And you're clearly invested in getting us to believe that you are in daily communication with gawd.

Well, well.  Anyone who is in daily communication with gawd can prove it, with absolutely no trouble.  So prove it.  Go to the authority of your choice and prove it.
When you have scientific proof, come back and tell us.   After you present scientific proof, we will probably believe you.   Not until then.

(October 12, 2015 at 8:12 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(October 12, 2015 at 7:32 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: i could find a professional who believes in God and surely i can find a minister who believes in God but why should i seek one out to get some kind of approval from anyone  are you going to seek out a minister or psychologist to get approval for your atheist views and adjust your beliefs based on their opinions ?  im not interested in convincing anyone im just being myself being honest and giving my true opinions on different topics here .

You wrote: 
post #141
if a psychiatrist does not believe in God that limits the ability to accurately diagnose someone just like a doctor who excludes  all scientific discovery within the last 50 years cannot make an accurate diagnosis because his education is incomplete.

post #142
 i know that God exists i have witnessed proof and any who lacks that proof and does not know about other possibilities i believe cannot possibly make an accurate diagnosis because they are lacking that information .

post #144
 since i know that God does exist i would not want to go to someone who did not have that proof . and so because of their lack of proof they do not believe that it is a possibility

Evie's right.  Your posts are very difficult to read.
When you first came on here you stated that you're not interested in convincing anyone.   
Now you're beating a dead horse about needing a psychiatrist who shares your world view.
And you're clearly invested in getting us to believe that you are in daily communication with gawd.

Well, well.  Anyone who is in daily communication with gawd can prove it, with absolutely no trouble.  So prove it.  Go to the authority of your choice and prove it.
When you have scientific proof, come back and tell us.   After you present scientific proof, we will probably believe you.   Not until then.

i dont know why your having such a difficulty time reading or understanding a simple sentence just because it lacks proper capitalization or a period at the end . and ive said in several posts that nothing will convince anyone of Gods existence but having that experience with God . noone will be convinced simply because i insist that its true ive said that in several posts because i believe that , the only people who will believe in a person who has also experienced it no matter what profession they are in . there is no proof outside personal proof.


im just telling about my own personal experience because this thread is called 'personal relationships with dieties' i didnt start this thread , and in my introduction i told about my experience because someone asked me about it . and my above posts were in response to people who did not seem like they were understanding so i tried to convey the concept in a couple different ways so they could get it , if i need to see a doctor about something i only want to see a doctor that is knowledgeable and educated .

Ok right, sorry.  You've told us you communicate with gawd on a daily basis.  We've told you we need proof or we won't believe you.   This topic is done, then, nothing more to say about communication from gawd.

(October 12, 2015 at 5:20 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

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because santa clause did not prove his existence to me and God did

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many many many psychiatrists believe and respect everything that Freud believed hes the grandfather of modern psychiatry

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If god has given you proof then feel free to share with the class. If you can't share it then I don't think it counts as proof.

Personally I never ask my psychiatrists or other doctors about their religious preferences. A doctor with any medical integrity will not allow her religious views to influence her job.

What diagnosis are you talking about that I would agree with and be happy with?

Everything you said after that made no sense.


a diagnosis that excluded any possibility of a spiritual experience you would agree and be very happy with since that is your view as well , that God cannot exist . since i know that God does exist i would not want to go to someone who did not have that proof . and so because of their lack of proof they do not believe that it is a possibility

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Mangled the quote feature.  You never gave Santa a chance and how do you know that wasn't Santa in a  god disguise?.  That aside I really hope you understand that the only way of life is through the teachings of FSM, His Son Cheesus and the Apastales.

RAmen.

I'm stil offended by you quoting the butchered quote tags but Santa in a god disguise made me lol so hard

@ Jenny

Mental illness and auditory hallucinations are well documented phenomenon. Hearing God's voice in your head isn't.