(December 27, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Faith No More Wrote: So, I want to hear it from the people that trudged through this thread.  Was it a sincere truce?

(December 27, 2015 at 7:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Soon he's going to 'ditch' the 'new, improved' persona and blame us for making him do it, thus fulfilling the purpose of the thread. Thus spake the prophet.

(December 27, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: 1) Stop baiting others from the word go. Every thread you've created has been titled to get others angry, and they all go downhill from there very quickly.

2) Provide some details about where you are coming from. Right now all you're doing is sidestepping this very necessary piece of evidence about you.

3) Provide some evidence for your positions.

(December 27, 2015 at 8:27 pm)abaris Wrote:

(December 27, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: 1) Stop baiting others from the word go. Every thread you've created has been titled to get others angry, and they all go downhill from there very quickly.

2) Provide some details about where you are coming from. Right now all you're doing is sidestepping this very necessary piece of evidence about you.

3) Provide some evidence for your positions.

I'm utterly convinced, this is a troll. So why should he/she/it do any of the above? There are only two possibilities. A real idiot with feelings of grandeur, who's still got enough brain cells to assume, we would laugh in their face, if their origin was reveiled. Or a troll, who can't even come up with a half convincing coverstory.

Quote:I used to be an apatheist.

Then I heard Richard Dawkins speak, saw how ridiculous he was and I became a born-again Christian.

(December 27, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote:

(December 26, 2015 at 5:37 pm)Delicate Wrote: A lot of atheists are mad at me. Perhaps for good reason- I've been a bit of a meanie-poo.

But a part of me also feels justified in acting all rambunctious and feisty because that's how I was treated early on without justification.

But I'm willing to set all that aside and start afresh. Clean slate and all.

Is this something we're all amenable to?

My necessary conditions for changing my opinion of you:

1) Stop baiting others from the word go. Every thread you've created has been titled to get others angry, and they all go downhill from there very quickly.

2) Provide some details about where you are coming from. Right now all you're doing is sidestepping this very necessary piece of evidence about you.

3) Provide some evidence for your positions.

4) Learn from your betters. Every single argument you have made has been comprehensively dismantled and conclusively shown to be wrong. Yet you still persist in condescending at those who disagree with you, despite your position having no basis whatsoever.

5) Don't be such a prick. Your general tone is confrontational, insulting and derogatory (without a single shred of provocation). Most others will react to you in the same way. If you want to improve the manner in which you are being dealt with improve your manners (vastly).

But the fact that your OP is framing you as the poor oppressed victim states to me clear as day that you don't want to improve yourself vis a vis the forum, you just want to mark your territory as martyr on here, so you can point to your buddies in the dipshit religionista community and shout "look at me, I have suffered for my faith, just like all those other oppressed christians. Truly, I am one of christ's greatest followers".

(December 27, 2015 at 8:34 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(December 27, 2015 at 8:27 pm)abaris Wrote: I'm utterly convinced, this is a troll. So why should he/she/it do any of the above? There are only two possibilities. A real idiot with feelings of grandeur, who's still got enough brain cells to assume, we would laugh in their face, if their origin was reveiled. Or a troll, who can't even come up with a half convincing coverstory.

You mean this one from their profile?

Quote:I used to be an apatheist.

Then I heard Richard Dawkins speak, saw how ridiculous he was and I became a born-again Christian.

I don't see too much ground between idiot and troll either.  How a reasonable human being gets from "Richard Dawkins is ridiculous" to "ergo, I'm a born-again Christian" is a mystery, even if we grant the premises as true.

"Forum Logician and Philosophy Enthusiast", my ass.

(December 27, 2015 at 9:30 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You're funny.

(December 27, 2015 at 9:26 pm)Delicate Wrote:

(December 27, 2015 at 8:21 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote:  

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My necessary conditions for changing my opinion of you:

1) Stop baiting others from the word go. Every thread you've created has been titled to get others angry, and they all go downhill from there very quickly.

2) Provide some details about where you are coming from. Right now all you're doing is sidestepping this very necessary piece of evidence about you.

3) Provide some evidence for your positions.

4) Learn from your betters. Every single argument you have made has been comprehensively dismantled and conclusively shown to be wrong. Yet you still persist in condescending at those who disagree with you, despite your position having no basis whatsoever.

5) Don't be such a prick. Your general tone is confrontational, insulting and derogatory (without a single shred of provocation). Most others will react to you in the same way. If you want to improve the manner in which you are being dealt with improve your manners (vastly).

But the fact that your OP is framing you as the poor oppressed victim states to me clear as day that you don't want to improve yourself vis a vis the forum, you just want to mark your territory as martyr on here, so you can point to your buddies in the dipshit religionista community and shout "look at me, I have suffered for my faith, just like all those other oppressed christians. Truly, I am one of christ's greatest followers".  

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Thanks for the substantive, non-emotional response.

In another thread, someone made a list of the threads I started. You might find it, as well as my responses illuminating.

As for where I am coming from, I make no positive claims about the existence of God. I don't mind if people are atheists. My problem is the application of bad reasoning in defense of atheism or against theism.

You are absolutely, positively wrong on (4). We can discuss it is you like.

As for the rest, I'll respond when the time is right.