(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:26 am)pool the great Wrote: It is not possible. Very good argument Rik, very smart.  *applause*
Now all you have left to do is to show evidence for something that is NOT physical which cannot be understood by using a physical tool.

Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

Not saying any of this is "proof" of love...but just another example of the way scientific inquiry chips away at the mysticism surrounding things like emotions and morality.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/thr...ly-in-love

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:26 am)pool the great Wrote: It is not possible. Very good argument Rik, very smart.  *applause*
Now all you have left to do is to show evidence for something that is NOT physical which cannot be understood by using a physical tool.

Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 17, 2016 at 3:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

Not saying any of this is "proof" of love...but just another example of the way scientific inquiry chips away at the mysticism surrounding things like emotions and morality.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/thr...ly-in-love





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I already made clear in the previous post and before that that sooner or later someone will discover how
to get deep inside and find out whether love is there or not so i am not surprised to see someone already
getting some results on the issue.
But let us not forget that physical love is not spiritual love therefore as one get sort of registered in one
part of the brain or gland another will get registered in a different part or gland inside the brain.
The pineal gland has long been known among spiritual practitioners as the border line between finite and infinity and therefore the place where the spiritual progress is registered.
One day (sooner or later) it will be possible to see how the system works within this gland.
In the meantime researchers are still try to work out about physical love.
Step by step will get there but let us be rational and not get too excited because that knowledge will only
be restricted to theory.
To turn into practice and to feeling one will have to work quite hard in the field of spirituality.
The main thing is therefore to get that feeling of love deep inside ourselves not inside other people.
That wouldn't give us much pleasure.
It only would be good for study purposes.  

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:26 am)pool the great Wrote: It is not possible. Very good argument Rik, very smart.  *applause*
Now all you have left to do is to show evidence for something that is NOT physical which cannot be understood by using a physical tool.

Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 17, 2016 at 12:38 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

Very good Rik. I admire this debating skillz of yours, most people would fall for it, very good.
See the problem with you asking for evidence for love is, you haven't properly defined what you mean by love. Love is a very subjective term, if you have an objective definition, please by all means, show it to us. But if I went ahead and did present you evidence for love, I will be presenting evidence for my definition of love, for all we know i might think of love as getting a boner. So suppose i did present some evidence for it, then you, being the clever lad you are will argue that my definition does not fit your definition of love, which would be right, because various people view love differently, then we'd go on and on about how mine or yours definition of love is the objective definition of love.

So, having clearly thought two steps ahead of you and shown that your line of argument is a dead end - DO you have a definition of love? Or shall i call bullshit yet again?

If you reward yourself with being the smart guy around then is already all said.
There is no need to add anything else.  

(January 18, 2016 at 9:30 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 17, 2016 at 12:38 pm)pool the great Wrote: Very good Rik. I admire this debating skillz of yours, most people would fall for it, very good.
See the problem with you asking for evidence for love is, you haven't properly defined what you mean by love. Love is a very subjective term, if you have an objective definition, please by all means, show it to us. But if I went ahead and did present you evidence for love, I will be presenting evidence for my definition of love, for all we know i might think of love as getting a boner. So suppose i did present some evidence for it, then you, being the clever lad you are will argue that my definition does not fit your definition of love, which would be right, because various people view love differently, then we'd go on and on about how mine or yours definition of love is the objective definition of love.

So, having clearly thought two steps ahead of you and shown that your line of argument is a dead end - DO you have a definition of love? Or shall i call bullshit yet again?

If you reward yourself with being the smart guy around then is already all said.
There is no need to add anything else.  

Looks like we're going to have to call bullshit








Again.

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:26 am)pool the great Wrote: It is not possible. Very good argument Rik, very smart.  *applause*
Now all you have left to do is to show evidence for something that is NOT physical which cannot be understood by using a physical tool.

Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 18, 2016 at 12:12 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(January 18, 2016 at 9:30 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you reward yourself with being the smart guy around then is already all said.
There is no need to add anything else.  

Looks like we're going to have to call bullshit
Again.

I am quite happy to answer anyone question provide that the one who question doesn't behave like a
dick that think he-she is already the winner well before the contest is over.
When you will come down from the ego tree i will be ready to talk to you.
Capishhh?  

(January 19, 2016 at 9:27 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 18, 2016 at 12:12 pm)pool the great Wrote: Looks like we're going to have to call bullshit
Again.

I am quite happy to answer anyone question provide that the one who question doesn't behave like a
dick that think he-she is already the winner well before the contest is over.
When you will come down from the ego tree i will be ready to talk to you.
Capishhh?  

Oh so you do have feelings!
Well, dear sir, Would I humbly request your definition of love so that I can provide evidence for it? Pretty please?

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:26 am)pool the great Wrote: It is not possible. Very good argument Rik, very smart.  *applause*
Now all you have left to do is to show evidence for something that is NOT physical which cannot be understood by using a physical tool.

Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 19, 2016 at 10:02 am)pool the great Wrote:

(January 19, 2016 at 9:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: I am quite happy to answer anyone question provide that the one who question doesn't behave like a
dick that think he-she is already the winner well before the contest is over.
When you will come down from the ego tree i will be ready to talk to you.
Capishhh?  

Oh so you do have feelings!
Well, dear sir, Would I humbly request your definition of love so that I can provide evidence for it? Pretty please?

When you get lost in that feeling that you and the other party (so to speak) are one that is love.
In order to reach this stage you got to give unconditionally not expecting any thing in return.  

(January 19, 2016 at 10:27 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 19, 2016 at 10:02 am)pool the great Wrote: Oh so you do have feelings!
Well, dear sir, Would I humbly request your definition of love so that I can provide evidence for it? Pretty please?

When you get lost in that feeling that you and the other party (so to speak) are one that is love.
In order to reach this stage you got to give unconditionally not expecting any thing in return.  

Very good kind sir! Brilliant definition indeed.
Here are the evidences kind sir:

Quote:The feeling of being in love can not only have an effect on our brain, but it can also lead to changes in human physiology and behavior. According to scientists from around the world, each stage of love for another human may be driven by the release of different hormones.

Quote:The first phase of falling in love is the lust or the desire phase.During this phase, men and women both release healthy amounts of testosterone and estrogen.In females, estrogen plays a role in vaginal health, longing for physical closeness with a mate, and the desire for sex.  In both male and females (but more so in men), testosterone drives sexual desire, openness and seductiveness.During this phase, the primary objective is to have sex rather than form an emotional connection.

Quote:Scientists have found evidence that adrenaline, dopamine and serotonin are involved in the attraction phase.Adrenaline is a hormone that is released during the human stress response and also plays a role in enhancing attraction and arousal of humans. This hormone causes the heart to beat faster and stronger, results in a surge of energy and focuses attention onto solely onto your potential mate. Dopamine is a hormone that plays a role in motivation, addiction, attention and desire.  Once released, this chemical messenger produces a feeling of happiness and bliss. Serotonin is a hormone which acts as a neurotransmitter and plays a role in maintaining mood balance, appetite, sleep, memory, sexual desire and sexual function.  During the attraction phase, serotonin levels decrease which can result in sleeplessness. 

Quote:Once the attraction phase has settled down dopamine, serotonin and adrenaline levels return to normal and another phase begins. The two major hormones involved in the attachment (or long-term bonding) phase are oxytocin and vasopressin which both play a role in social and reproductive behaviors in humans. Oxytocin, also referred to as the “love hormone” is released during the attachment phase in correlation with physical touch and results in an increase in dopamine (the happy hormone). 

In short, evidence for love can be gathered by keeping in track of the hormonal changes in the human body.
For more info check this link out: http://www.myvitawellness.com/3-stages-love-hormones

Do I win already? These shenanigans of yours really are getting boring.

(January 17, 2016 at 6:26 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 6:26 am)pool the great Wrote: It is not possible. Very good argument Rik, very smart.  *applause*
Now all you have left to do is to show evidence for something that is NOT physical which cannot be understood by using a physical tool.

Is a pity that you are not paying attention to what i already explained several times.
I said...........CAN YOU GIVE EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE IN LOVE?
Suppose someone pop up and ask you that question?
What would you say?
You probably would say....OF COURSE I AM IN LOVE WITH SUCH AND SUCH A PERSON.
But that pedantic nutter will not believe.
How would you explain then considering that love is something within very hard to extrapolate except
when you love someone?
Not easy son but now consider this.
Physical love is hard enough to extrapolate so how can extrapolate something a lot more subtle like
spiritual love?
Maybe (as i already said) in the future will invent something able to see deep inside who knows.
In the past highly spiritual people were represented with an aura or aureola on the head.
In the meantime the only way to reveal whether God exist or not is to engage in spirituality.
By digging deep within in your subconscious you will be able to find the real gold and have evidence that God is there.  

(January 19, 2016 at 11:59 am)pool the great Wrote:

(January 19, 2016 at 10:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: When you get lost in that feeling that you and the other party (so to speak) are one that is love.
In order to reach this stage you got to give unconditionally not expecting any thing in return.  

Very good kind sir! Brilliant definition indeed.
Here are the evidences kind sir:

Quote:The feeling of being in love can not only have an effect on our brain, but it can also lead to changes in human physiology and behavior. According to scientists from around the world, each stage of love for another human may be driven by the release of different hormones.

Quote:The first phase of falling in love is the lust or the desire phase.During this phase, men and women both release healthy amounts of testosterone and estrogen.In females, estrogen plays a role in vaginal health, longing for physical closeness with a mate, and the desire for sex.  In both male and females (but more so in men), testosterone drives sexual desire, openness and seductiveness.During this phase, the primary objective is to have sex rather than form an emotional connection.

Quote:Scientists have found evidence that adrenaline, dopamine and serotonin are involved in the attraction phase.Adrenaline is a hormone that is released during the human stress response and also plays a role in enhancing attraction and arousal of humans. This hormone causes the heart to beat faster and stronger, results in a surge of energy and focuses attention onto solely onto your potential mate. Dopamine is a hormone that plays a role in motivation, addiction, attention and desire.  Once released, this chemical messenger produces a feeling of happiness and bliss. Serotonin is a hormone which acts as a neurotransmitter and plays a role in maintaining mood balance, appetite, sleep, memory, sexual desire and sexual function.  During the attraction phase, serotonin levels decrease which can result in sleeplessness. 

Quote:Once the attraction phase has settled down dopamine, serotonin and adrenaline levels return to normal and another phase begins. The two major hormones involved in the attachment (or long-term bonding) phase are oxytocin and vasopressin which both play a role in social and reproductive behaviors in humans. Oxytocin, also referred to as the “love hormone” is released during the attachment phase in correlation with physical touch and results in an increase in dopamine (the happy hormone). 

In short, evidence for love can be gathered by keeping in track of the hormonal changes in the human body.
For more info check this link out: http://www.myvitawellness.com/3-stages-love-hormones

Do I win already? These shenanigans of yours really are getting boring.

I got bad news for you son.  

You lost.

What you are thinking of is not love.
It is lust.
The fact that lust follow by sex release and emit hormones that make you feel good has absolutely nothing to do with love.
You can get good feeling by eating good food or doing anything else.
Lust like any other physical activity is to get something while love is to give something but why should i waste my time with people who think they win by popping up with such stupid claims?
Try again but please think before you attempt to bring forward failed arguments.
There are people here that try before you.
Most of them failed.  
They failed in philosophy, they failed in evolution, they failed in consciousness just to mention few.  

Quite a bit of entertainment for the day.

pool the great in the lead, Rik left in the dust with the burden of proof.