Trum being anti establishment is a joke, isn't it? Please say, it is.

(March 4, 2016 at 8:31 pm)abaris Wrote: Trum being anti establishment is a joke, isn't it? Please say, it is.

Being rich doesn't make you establishment, and he is not establishment. He doesn't attend CFR meetings, or Bilderberg meetings like Hillary Clinton. He doesn't attend Bohemian Grove, that I know of, he isn't a member of Skull and Bones which the last two Bush's were members of. He's just rich from real-estate deals. The establishment goes a lot higher than being a billionaire. That's where the connections are. From their perspective he's an outsider, which is why they are against him. They control the media, because in any nation it's important to control what people think. He's not part of their club, he's not as corrupt or invested in globalism as they are. The establishment is the rulling power over the world, and all nations. It's concentric circles of ever increasing power. Behind the scenes people are making deals while in the eyes of the people they are adversaries. This is beyond the nation state. This is a global agenda, which Trump is not part of.

Aha, he would totally go against his own interests, if elected. Seems very plausible. Very plausible indeed.

(March 4, 2016 at 8:24 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I'm curious, what people really don't like about him, and what they are afraid will happen if he becomes president?

Do you really not know this?

Everything that has come out of his mouth has been xenophobic, racist, sexist, undiplomatic, gross, and most of all, unrealistic. What's not to love about him?

He wants to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. Who the fuck says a thing like that?

(March 4, 2016 at 8:48 pm)Mermaid Wrote: Who the fuck says a thing like that?

But he talks about his dick too. Be glad, he didn't unzip yet.

(March 4, 2016 at 8:55 pm)abaris Wrote:

(March 4, 2016 at 8:48 pm)Mermaid Wrote: Who the fuck says a thing like that?

But he talks about his dick too. Be glad, he didn't unzip yet.

There's still time.

(March 4, 2016 at 8:48 pm)Mermaid Wrote:

(March 4, 2016 at 8:24 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I'm curious, what people really don't like about him, and what they are afraid will happen if he becomes president?

Do you really not know this?

Everything that has come out of his mouth has been xenophobic, racist, sexist, undiplomatic, gross, and most of all, unrealistic. What's not to love about him?

He wants to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. Who the fuck says a thing like that?

Sure I understand that people have that perception, but I don't agree necessarily agree with those labels, but I can see why they are directed at him. As for being racist, I don't think he's racist, but if you want to think that banning illegal immigrants is racism, then it makes sense you would say so. Don't agree he's sexist, but some of what he says can be thought to be sexist. I think it comes down to the fact that words hurt people nowadays, but I think people are thin skinned.

How would he get Mexico to pay for the wall, is up in the air, but he could implement stricter trade restrictions, and use that as leverage to say ok, well allow the flow of goods, if you build a wall to prevent the flow of undocumented immigrants flowing in. There are ways to bargain. Part of the problem is an agreement was signed with Mexico Canada and the US for what is known as the north American union, which really isn't talked about, but was signed under the Bush presidency along with the leaders of Mexico and Canada. Still not well known to the people in general, and it's still being implemented which is called the security and prosperity partership of north america. Kind of like the EU, or the TPP. He sees NAFTA as benefitting Mexico and Canada more then the US, and it's a reason more corporations move to those countries. It results in larger trade deficits for the US.

(March 4, 2016 at 9:04 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I think it comes down to the fact that words hurt people nowadays, but I think people are thin skinned.

I give you the benefit of the doubt of not actually listening to him. Right at the start he called all Mexicans rapists and criminals. What he has to say about women on a regular basis, I can't even repeat, since there are too many quotes to remember. Most vividly the one quote on the bleeding female Fox reporter sticks in my mind.

(March 4, 2016 at 9:08 pm)abaris Wrote:

(March 4, 2016 at 9:04 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I think it comes down to the fact that words hurt people nowadays, but I think people are thin skinned.

I give you the benefit of the doubt of not actually listening to him. Right at the start he called all Mexicans rapists and criminals. What he has to say about women on a regular basis, I can't even repeat, since there are too many quotes to remember. Most vividly the one quote on the bleeding female Fox reporter sticks in my mind.

See the thing is people are perceiving what they interpret his words to mean, rather than what he says. He didn't say that actually and if you provide the quote of what he actually said you would see that you are interpreting it in a way, that doesn't equal reality. This is probably what you are referring to:

Quote:When do we beat Mexico at the border? They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically.

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...ntial-bid/

As far as women, I'd like to have you post a quote. Was it against women, or just a woman? I'm guessing you are talking about the bleeding female one.

Quote:"had blood coming out of her eyes; blood coming out of her -- wherever,"

Assuming you are assuming what he's talking about, still not even sure why that's so horrible. I'm guessing nose, but even then you would probably say well that just suggests he beats women. Sure he's not politically correct but to hear someone not talk like a politician is refreshing, because I can't stand the PC crowd these days. Always trying to tell people how to talk and act, and that I'm racist or have white privilege, etc. It's a joke! You don't like Obama, well it's because you are latent racist, or you don't like Clinton, well you are a latent sexist. It's not that I am, but people have this idea based on their perceptions, that anyone that disagrees with PC is xenophobic, sexist, or racist. Those terms get thrown around too loosely to the point that they have lost their strength.

No, he's insinuating menstruation and construes it to be something shameful. Practically everyone understood it that way.