(March 8, 2016 at 9:35 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(March 6, 2016 at 12:34 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Total peace of mind doesn't exist.  You haven't found it.  And all you have as evidence is the word of a fool.


Can't provide what can't exist.

Fail again yog.  
You don't have to be a black belt at the 10th dan to know that once you get there you will be able to perform at the top.  
The same thing apply to all performances.  

You can conceive things that don't exist, it doesn't mean you can achieve them.

And how would you know that your current performance leads there? Your current performance isn't there, so you don't know. And you will never know!

This is just wishful mularkey.

(March 8, 2016 at 10:10 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(March 8, 2016 at 9:23 am)Stimbo Wrote: He was talking to you as well.

Actually rob comments ( usually ) are not so much heated like those of some ex mates of mine.  

I don't care. Just as long as you do as you're told, son.

Wishful Mularky. That about sums up this entire thread!

(March 8, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(March 8, 2016 at 9:35 am)Little Rik Wrote: Fail again yog.  
You don't have to be a black belt at the 10th dan to know that once you get there you will be able to perform at the top.  
The same thing apply to all performances.  

You can conceive things that don't exist, it doesn't mean you can achieve them.

So you know for sure that something does not exist just by doing nothing and experiencing nothing
in that sense.
Whoooooo that is clever yog.
How did you become so smart?
Eating a lot of spinach?  

Quote:And how would you know that your current performance leads there?  Your current performance isn't there, so you don't know.  And you will never know!
This is just wishful mularkey.

How would you know that by studying or performing in any sport or activity you will get at the
top of that activity?
Gee, that is a real difficult question to ask.  
I never thought about it yog.  
Have a lovely day yog.    

Oh, by the way yog, do you know anyone who can help me with this question........what is the
relationship between energy and consciousness?  

(March 8, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 8, 2016 at 10:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: Actually rob comments ( usually ) are not so much heated like those of some ex mates of mine.  

I don't care. Just as long as you do as you're told, son.

Ehmm Stim.  
Rob the moderator mean everybody cool down not just me.  
But don't worry about me at least for today.  
I just had a lovely day in the beach.  

Rik is still a gibbering, condescending fuck with no substance to his words, huh?


Not much changes around here.

(March 9, 2016 at 5:14 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(March 8, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You can conceive things that don't exist, it doesn't mean you can achieve them.

So you know for sure that something does not exist just by doing nothing and experiencing nothing
in that sense.
Whoooooo that is clever yog.
How did you become so smart?
Eating a lot of spinach?  

Your claim that I have done nothing to arrive at this conclusion is as unsupported as the rest of your twaddle. I have arrived at this conclusion as a result of much studying and thinking. But you're oblivious to all that, as your preferred route to knowledge consists of sitting on your ass. And your response to me here is just a pretext for you puffing your usual wares about how you must expend effort in intuitional science to know anything about it, such as whether or not it is even compatible with reality. To which I say, "hogwash," there are multiple ways to study life and I have engaged in most of them. If, as you say, merely by engaging in a practice you can know the summit of such practice, then I do. Either your claim ends up being false by way of my thinking on the subject, or by your claim that by practice one can know the summit. The summit, whatever it is, cannot be known by your experience of the side of the mountain. The side of the mountain tells you that your path is ever upward, that no matter how far you climb, the path always goes higher. This does not in any way tell you that the summit is of infinite height, or that it will go upward forever. You will reach a point at which the climb peters out, and there you are at the summit, not some never never land where the climb goes on forever. The climb does not accurately describe the summit.

(March 9, 2016 at 5:14 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(March 8, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: And how would you know that your current performance leads there?  Your current performance isn't there, so you don't know.  And you will never know!
This is just wishful mularkey.

How would you know that by studying or performing in any sport or activity you will get at the
top of that activity?
Gee, that is a real difficult question to ask.  
I never thought about it yog.  
Have a lovely day yog.    

What is at question is not whether by performance one will get to the top of that activity -- whatever the top of that activity is -- but rather will any amount of practice allow you to leap tall buildings in a single bound. You can reach the top, but the top isn't total peace of mind, and nothing in your experience, no matter how much practice you've done, demonstrates that it is. You may have experienced peace of mind, perhaps even greater peace of mind as a result of yoga, that doesn't mean that you ever can experience total peace of mind.

(March 9, 2016 at 5:14 am)Little Rik Wrote: Oh, by the way yog, do you know anyone who can help me with this question........what is the
relationship between energy and consciousness?  

I could help you with the question, but since you are attached to a dogmatic response to the question, my doing so would be pointless. Regardless of what I say, you'll just use it as an excuse to ramble on advertising this or that unrelated belief of yours. So I could answer your question, but I do not do so because you have demonstrated time and time again that you are not interested in honestly exploring opinions on the matter but rather use every such occasion to prattle on about your dogmatic beliefs.

That's a wonderful analogy, regarding climbs and summits, I can't help but chime in Jorg.  

I live in the foothills of the Appalachian Range (not a particularly impressive range with regards to height or summits).  To reach any summit in that range you're going to have to go through my yard, or someplace like it...no matter where you choose to start out or which summit on that range you wish to reach.  

Amusingly, a description of my yard not only inadequately describes the summit..it inadequately describes prior or future portions of the climb -to- that summit.  If you based your preparations for mountain-climbing on what would be needed to cross my yard, you'll have prepared yourself only for death or failure long before you even glimpsed the top.  After all, all that you need to make it in my yard is a tall glass and a wide smile.  Things get significantly shittier "up there".  

To bring it all into perspective...here you are in my yard, Rik...without so much as a glass or smile, confidently declaring that you're ready to brave the peaks obscured by cloud above.  A truly impressive failure to comprehend the challenges at hand or before you...and there's no need to wonder or bicker about fairies or magic to realize this. Even if you had a flying, eight legged pony to take you the whole way there, all that would be delivered to the summit, would be a corpse.

(March 9, 2016 at 5:21 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(March 8, 2016 at 5:41 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I don't care. Just as long as you do as you're told, son.

Ehmm Stim.  
Rob the moderator mean everybody cool down not just me.  

Well done.