If it makes good sense to associate Islam with a worldwide and supernatural dictator, then it makes equal or better sense to associate evangelical Christianity with the same. If it's they who expect this, then it's they who will do their best to bring it.

(March 10, 2016 at 7:17 am)Stimbo Wrote: Polymerisation.

Your turn.

"The DNA polymerases are enzymes that create DNA molecules by assembling nucleotides, the building blocks of DNA. These enzymes are essential to DNA replication and usually work in pairs to create two identical DNA strands from one original DNA molecule. During this process, DNA polymerase “reads” the existing DNA strands to create two new strands that match the existing ones.
Every time a cell divides, DNA polymerase is required to help duplicate the cell’s DNA, so that a copy of the original DNA molecule can be passed to each of the daughter cells. In this way, genetic information is transmitted from generation to generation.
Before replication can take place, an enzyme called helicase unwinds the DNA molecule from its tightly woven form. This opens up or “unzips” the double stranded DNA to give two single strands of DNA that can be used as templates for replication.
DNA polymerase adds new free nucleotides to the 3’ end of the newly-forming strand, elongating it in a 5’ to 3’ direction. However, DNA polymerase cannot begin the formation of this new chain on its own and can only add nucleotides to a pre-existing 3'-OH group. A primer is therefore needed, at which nucleotides can be added. Primers are usually composed of RNA and DNA bases and the first two bases are always RNA. These primers are made by another enzyme called primase.
Although the function of DNA polymerase is highly accurate, a mistake is made for about one in every billion base pairs copied." http://www.news-medical.net/life-science...erase.aspx

For polymerisation to occur, you have to have a bunch of enzymes which are basically proteins that come from DNA. So how did the first DNA polymerisation reactions happen without the necessary enzymes? Seems like chicken and egg here.

The requirements for polymerization to occur don't seem to have anything to do with your claims of what was necessary.  You have google, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerization

How about magic book..what does magic book say on the subject? For comparison, obviously.

(March 10, 2016 at 6:35 pm)AJW333 Wrote: For polymerisation to occur, you have to have a bunch of enzymes which are basically proteins that come from DNA.

Go back to school with you!
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30274635

AJ, you don't make your case by undercutting your opponent's. Even if your objections are accurate, which is still something you need to substantiate, it does nothing to bolster what you want to be true.

(March 10, 2016 at 7:57 am)abaris Wrote:

(March 10, 2016 at 7:48 am)AJW333 Wrote: Is it ignorant to associate Islam with the mark of the beast?

No, it's not even on the level of ignorance, it's simply bigoted. Straight on the my god has the biggest dick line. Primitive on the side, but that usually goes hand in hand with bigotry.

Ignorant barges in with a vengeance, when you actually take an ambivalent phrase and turn it into a meaning of your liking. Thereby not only ignoring the history of the bible, such as when it actually was compiled.

Lastly, ignorance is also in play when you actually take the mark of the beast to be a real thiing. But I think, we established that already.

The Bible correctly predicts the rise of an end-times antichrist system. Why would a ragtag bunch of Jews 2000 years ago have the audacity to predict that the entire world would end up engulfed in a battle between what they believed as Christians and the forces denying their beliefs. It's an outrageously unlikely prediction and yet here we are watching it unfold. Fundamental Islam is slaughtering people all over the world for simply refusing to submit to its totalitarian demands. How is my observation of the actions of Islam bigotry or ignorance?

If you despise the Christian faith, how on earth could you not feel the same way about Islam?

Correctly predicts?  How would you know?  Are you...like magic book... a fortune teller? If so...do I need magic book or can I just shake you a few times and ask questions?

"Not likely"....hmn........"Ask again later"

Whats the difference, btw, between christianity slaughtering people the world over for simply refusing to submit to it's totalitarian demands, and islam doing the same? World didn't end the last time...or did it?

(March 10, 2016 at 2:09 pm)loganonekenob Wrote: I feel fortunate that I live in a time and place where i can express my anti theistic ideas and still live another day.

So I guess an anti-theistic government would suit you right down to the ground? In terms of anti-theistic regimes of the 20th century how well did they treat their  citizens? Not well when you consider that practically every communist (anti theist) country of the 20th century slaughtered huge numbers of their own people and denied them a host of basic human rights. Consider the USSR,  China, East Germany, Romania, North Korea, the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia etc etc. On the other hand, countries that we might consider "Christian" seemed to fare much better. I know where I'd rather live.

(March 10, 2016 at 7:09 pm)AJW333 Wrote: The Bible correctly predicts the rise of an end-times antichrist system. Why would a ragtag bunch of Jews 2000 years ago have the audacity to predict that the entire world would end up engulfed in a battle between what they believed as Christians and the forces denying their beliefs. It's an outrageously unlikely prediction and yet here we are watching it unfold. Fundamental Islam is slaughtering people all over the world for simply refusing to submit to its totalitarian demands. How is my observation of the actions of Islam bigotry or ignorance?

If you despise the Christian faith, how on earth could you not feel the same way about Islam?

Hey dude? I'll give you a big ol' hint: the Islamic religion does not "deny" christian beliefs. Allah is the Abrahamic god, it's just a different interpretation than yours, with one extra prophet. Hell, Jesus is still an important, accepted Messianic figure in Islam, it's just that their story has a canonical third part, where yours stops at the New Testament. In no sense are christian beliefs denied by islam, and more than they're denied by freaking protestantism.

Also, your description of this war is rather... limited, I believe intentionally so. You really think you've got just christians on one side, and islam on the other? These would be the same islamic terrorists who have also been attacking old temples dedicated to Baal, and even to destroying the culture of other islamic sects? Are you just not aware of the damage ISIS is wreaking on other religions? And wouldn't you have to conclude, taking into account the actual scope of the attacks here, and not simply those ones that impact you, that this is, in fact, not a battle between christianity and fundamentalist islam, but between fundamentalist islam and every other religion?

So, okay, the prophecy has come to pass, just so long as you ignore the fact that the two largest claims within it are manifestly untrue. But hey, it wouldn't be the first time a christian has ignored facts to stretch and retrofit their "prophecies" after the fact...

(March 10, 2016 at 7:31 pm)AJW333 Wrote:

(March 10, 2016 at 2:09 pm)loganonekenob Wrote: I feel fortunate that I live in a time and place where i can express my anti theistic ideas and still live another day.

So I guess an anti-theistic government would suit you right down to the ground? In terms of anti-theistic regimes of the 20th century how well did they treat their  citizens? Not well when you consider that practically every communist (anti theist) country of the 20th century slaughtered huge numbers of their own people and denied them a host of basic human rights. Consider the USSR,  China, East Germany, Romania, North Korea, the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia etc etc. On the other hand, countries that we might consider "Christian" seemed to fare much better. I know where I'd rather live.

No one wants an anti-theistic government. What we want is for everyone to be free to believe whatever they want without the (secular) government getting involved-- or, as everyone else on the planet but religious fundamentalists like to call it, non-theocratic.

The fact that you even tried to compare our ideas to those of the Khmer Rouge shows us what kind of sick radical you are.