(April 12, 2016 at 12:22 pm)BlackBird Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: That's because for you it is a no win situation, but is the whole point of this thread. If GID fits a medical diagnosis of mental illness then why are the mentally Ill allowed to change the laws?

And all this time I thought it was the elected representatives changing the laws.

How many of them have a diagnosed mental illness I wonder? Depression? Anxiety? Other things not immediately visible? What are you doing to keep them from changing the law?

I guess you don't watch the news...

The 'elected officials' in both Miss, and Nc up created a law forbidding transgendered people from using the wrong bathroom. Yet public outcry and threats from major companies are trying to change the will of those people of that state. Georgia looked to follow suit, but did not act because of financial sanctions.

So no. It's not the law makers who make laws, it those with the money, and right now the money is supporting insanity. (literally)

Trangender people are just people who are born with a different gender mentally to their biological sex.

It's not a health problem, Drich.

(April 12, 2016 at 12:27 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: That's because for you it is a no win situation, but is the whole point of this thread. If GID fits a medical diagnosis of mental illness then why are the mentally Ill allowed to change the laws?

You should be careful what you wish for Dirch. Delusion and megalomania are both mental illnesses and you along with plenty of your Xtian brothers demonstrate both conditions.

Actually thinking about it, and with the consent of the transgender community perhaps we should take your advice and prevent the mentally ill from changing laws if it keeps deluded theists out of office.

It's a reasonable trade off doncha think? I'd vote for that.

All you have to do now is get the medical community to label religion a mental illness, and we will be 3/4 the way home according to the book of revelation.

(April 12, 2016 at 12:41 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 12:30 pm)Drich Wrote: Oh, my glob..

TREATMENT IS NOT A CONCERN IN THIS TOPIC!

I don't care how they under go treatment! Since I seem to be the ONLY one who has read Anything clinical on the subject Before I made my first comment/The OP I am well aware of how treatment is carried out in SOME Cases. And I also know how it is carried out in others. Again I worded my OP to over look treatment as it is a non issue. The issue here is the diagnosible disorder that transsexuals share.

Your hero Esq intentionally introduced the strawman of treatment so he could go and soap box off on how I didn't account for AB or C therefore my summary should be dismissed... Again, AB nor C has anything to do with the 123 points I was actually making.

Lol, oh my glob, yes it IS.  You just said a few posts back that letting the transgendered use the bathroom of their choosing is "indulging their illness."  You are commenting that allowing them to do this is making them "worse" rather then helping "treat" them.  So, now you have to support your position on what constitutes treatment.

I did just to show 'you people' how it is not related.

(April 12, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Evie Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 9:57 am)Drich Wrote: It's called Gender Identity disorder or GID.

It's not a disorder.

Like I said, it's not about mental health it's about personal identity.

Again according to the Mayo Clinic it is a disorder according to the term "Gender Identity Disorder"/GID it is a DISORDER!!!

(April 12, 2016 at 2:36 pm)Drich Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Evie Wrote: It's not a disorder.

Like I said, it's not about mental health it's about personal identity.

Again according to the Mayo Clinic it is a disorder according to the term "Gender Identity Disorder"/GID it is a DISORDER!!!

And according to the upcoming DSM 5, GID is going the way of the dinosaur. It is not strictly synonymous with gender dysphoria.

(April 12, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Drich Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 12:41 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Lol, oh my glob, yes it IS.  You just said a few posts back that letting the transgendered use the bathroom of their choosing is "indulging their illness."  You are commenting that allowing them to do this is making them "worse" rather then helping "treat" them.  So, now you have to support your position on what constitutes treatment.

I did just to show 'you people' how it is not related.

Okay...let's try another angle here. Open-ended question: Drich, do you think that transgendered individuals should be allowed to use which ever bathroom they feel most comfortable in? Why or why not? Please, no answers about politics or law-making. I want you to express how you PERSONALLY feel...and why.

(April 12, 2016 at 1:01 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote: Does doctor Drich also insist that every deaf born child receive compulsory cochlear implants?  Give birth to a dwarf or midget?  No problem, human birth hormone is now mandatory!  Suffer from excessive individualism?  Just let drich drag your sorry ass to church every Sunday!  Now there is a treatment for every abnormality.

No dude, what I'm saying is that a "deaf born child did not receive cochlear implants" mandate that everyone else be made deaf just to make things more fair.

I'm saying the good of the many should out weigh the good of the individual. or in this case the good of the 99% of the population outweigh the good of the 1%ers.

(April 12, 2016 at 2:33 pm)Drich Wrote: All you have to do now is get the medical community to label religion a mental illness, and we will be 3/4 the way home according to the book of revelation.

They already have

http://atheistforums.org/thread-42551-po...pid1246265

Maybe you should get off the forum and start preparing instead.

(April 12, 2016 at 2:36 pm)Drich Wrote:

(April 12, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Evie Wrote: It's not a disorder.

Like I said, it's not about mental health it's about personal identity.

Again according to the Mayo Clinic it is a disorder according to the term "Gender Identity Disorder"/GID it is a DISORDER!!!

It has no more reason to be considered a disorder as homosexuality, and homosexuality used to be wrongly considered a disorder.