(April 14, 2016 at 4:25 pm)abaris Wrote:

(April 14, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: They don't boycott Red Lobster despite eating shellfish being called an "abomination" too.

But, to put it bluntly, it isn't about fucking. For a bible literalist, the greatest imaginable sin is fucking without creating babies being the goal of the act.

Not creating babies, but future gang members.

(April 14, 2016 at 11:02 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

Mathilda Wrote:On the whole the world would be a better place if they did not.

American Psychological Association To Classify Belief in God As a Mental Illness

They actually never considered doing that.

Damn, it's a satirical site. I should have checked. Just I thought there was a link to it somewhere where it was seriously proposed.

Sorry.

(April 14, 2016 at 11:50 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

Drich Wrote:Well I'm sure their will be a 'sympathizers' camp right next to the camp of concentration the 'radical religious' people will be sent to 'think about/concentrate' on how to be better citizens.

Maybe the sympathizers will be made to clean the ovens after they've been used.

Seriously though it is comming. ISIS and Radical Islam will pave the way, but the legislation will be used to force anyone in line who does not agree with the state.

Then their will be a 'test' meaning those who are with the state will have to get 'stamped' or tagged with some sort of bio chip maybe on the hand or forehead that will be needed to do business/live.

This is what I think of as 'martyrbation', a form of self-pleasuring revolving around the fantasy of being oppressed.

For me this shows just how delusional Drich is. That news site may have been satirical but religious fervour really does match many of the criteria for a mental illness. The fantasy land that Drich inhabits causes him distress. It's not based on any personal experience or evidence but rather a work of fiction.

The irony is that someone as delusional as Drich is ranting about a minority that has to go through more self introspection and therapy than he will ever do in his lifetime. After all, a key feature of sanity is knowing exactly why you think and feel the way you do and having some control over it.

(April 14, 2016 at 11:59 am)Brian37 Wrote: It is really irritating and annoying that some people think equality is a call to ban religion. Same crap said about transgendered now was said about gays, and before that interracial marriage and blacks and women. It is not persecution to include.

I was actually joking.

(April 14, 2016 at 6:09 pm)Mathilda Wrote: The irony is that someone as delusional as Drich is ranting about a minority that has to go through more self introspection and therapy than he will ever do in his lifetime. After all, a key feature of sanity is knowing exactly why you think and feel the way you do and having some control over it.

It's a cliche and overused argument these days, but it's true - If I was as perversely interested in a particular minority group I don't belong to like that, I'd be questioning why.

Sounds like a LOT of overcompensation to me. Just saying

(April 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(April 14, 2016 at 2:12 am)Mathilda Wrote: People who identify with a different species (if there are any, I doubt there are) do not have matching brain scans.

There is also no discernible difference in brain scans between different races, such as there is between male and female.

Transsexuals have the same type of brains as the gender that they identify with.

Yes, there are such people, though it is very rare. They are called "otherkin." 

Ok, I can see what you're saying about the brain scan and it makes sense, and it does further set them apart from the examples I mentioned above. However, couldn't it still be considered some form of disorder for the brain to be one sex and the rest of the body to be a different sex? Isn't that the crux of the word "disorder," in its most basic form, that something is not "ordered" properly?

Yes but does it matter? So it's a disorder. A disorder of what? The brain or the body? The transsexual has a perfectly functioning body, and a perfectly functioning brain. It's a disorder of the matching between the two. Surely that's what transsexuals have been arguing all along. Just using the term disorder in a way that suggests that it is a mental disorder is equivocation.

You can either try to change the brain or you can try to change the body. The medical profession tried to change the former and it did not work and long hard experience and many ruined lives later on has shown that the only effective treatment is to change the body.

And is it just too much to ask that you recognise them as the gender they want to be?

People kick up such a massive fuss over petty shit like pronouns. "Oh I want want to call him a woman because...!!!"

Is it really that big an ask. Look I don't care, I don't give a shit if I can still clearly see you were born XY from a mile away, I'll call you "she" if that's what you want. Not because of science, not because of "a condition", but just on principle that that's what you want and I'm not a stubborn asshole.

No, I'll call them whatever they want me to call them. I don't care.

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